Final Fantasy general

What elements of Dragon Quest does it have? Never played one.

Eh, I was talking about IX specifically. But anyhow, my point was that both Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles and Dragon Quest IX both very much encourage multiplayer. Though FFCC is an action RPG, but lacks a job system and DQIX is a turn based RPG with a very diverse job system.

edited 21st Aug '14 11:17:25 AM by Kurgy

Hamauzo and some other SE musicians are involved with Super Smash Brothers. For 3DS

So is the FFX party the only one that didn't in some way help the villains before they ultimately stopped them?

FFIV had Cecil and co. getting crystals for Golbez.

I believe the FFVI Party helps Kefka become God? Never played that far.

FFVII is obvious. Black Materia to Sephiroth, way to go.

FFVIII's endgame hinged entirely on letting Ultimecia achieve her goal.

FFIX had the heroes helping Kuja to first get Alexander so they helped him achieve Plan A and were only saved by Garland. Then they helped him get to Terra and the Invincible to achieve his Trance. Also they beat up Garland, the only threat to Kuja.

FFXII had the heroes fueling the Bahamut by destroying the Sun Cryst and breaking the Occuria's hold.

FFXIII.....hahahahaha, that one is too obvious.

FFX though? Nope, they never helped Seymour get close to his goal or anything like that. They also took down Yevon.

There was the part where Yuna was perfectly fine with carrying out the pilgrimage, even while branded a traitor, right up until she met Yunalesca. Also, by getting themselves branded traitors, the only people in the world who will believe them about Yevon are the Al Bhed, who everybody already hates. Furthermore, the whole "have the entire planet sing the Hymn of the Faith" plan wouldn't have worked if Shelinda wasn't around to be a doormat.

In FFI... Well, things are a bit muddled. To be sure, some parts of the plot wouldn't have happened had they not killed Garland, but they wouldn't have had need to kill Garland if those parts of the plot hadn't happened. But Garland never really wanted or particularly needed them to kill him, so I'd say the party comes out ahead on this one.

In FFII, the party falls into Mateus's trap at the coliseum, but that delayed them, rather than directly delivering help to him. I suppose sending him to Hell helped him a lot, so there's that. But the Dark Knoght may well have helped him on that front anyway.

In FFIII, the party never really helps Xande. One of his minions tricks them at th Fire altar, but they deal with that one quickly.

And you forgot FFV, wherein the heroes' brave struggles at the sealing tree help Exdeath something fierce.

Up to Castle Palamecia now. As much as I like gameplay, it makes late game characters and spells pointless, unless you are willing to spend time to level them up. Since I need to finish the game before I leave for the city where I study, my Ricard mainly spends time KO'd. Speaking of Ricard, his toad portrait is simply adorable. I'm not sure why, but I like the Emperor. There is something charming about him. I liked how he was smiling when he summoned mooks to fight you but stopped smiling, when the party reached him. By the way, it's a pity other games don't use animated portraits. Also, I don't know much about dancing, but why Hilda and Gordon's positions switched during the dance number? Is it because Hilda is the badass princess, while Gordon is a wuss?

: In the case of FFVI, Kefka becomes the God of magic when the returners destroys the Warring Triad in the Kefka's Tower.

FF 2 is weird. I had a couple Game Overs in the Snow Cave because I was being stingy with my items. We hadn't gotten much Gil up to this point and I wasn't going to waste it on Potions or whatever. But after those two Game Overs I went back and stocked up on 25 of them and 2 emergency Hi Potions. Ended up using pretty much all of it by the end of the dungeon. They just won't leave Guy alone.

Anyway, why the game is weird, Firion with his amazing set of Armor and sword could do 0 damage to the Adamantoise while it did 100 damage to him in one shot. Firion only had about 120 HP so two hits and he was down. I guess I should be glad the thing didn't hit Maria - she only has 75 HP and would be killed in one hit more than likely. Meanwhile there was Gus and Josef, completely unarmored and with bare fists, able to do about 50 damage to the thing while it could only do about 60 damage to them. Gus almost had 300 Hp by this point so what did that matter.

So Firion decked out with the best equipment was totally useless while Maria with her Ice Magic and the other two saved the day. I guess if i ever have to fight a giant monster turtle, I should just punch it to death instead of trying to grab a weapon.

Now it's onto Kas'Ion and Gordon. Finally have a respectable amount of Gil though so I bought Firion a Life Scroll straight away. Probably going to need that.... Also Maria can finally actually be a Black Mage now she has Ice. We haven't been able to get any other attack magic up to this point that I know of so she has just been kinda worthless with her bow attacks.

Oh and I forgot to mention my second Game Over was because I was thinking "okay, I'll get most of the treasures and a lot of Gil from random encounters then Warp out and go heal." So i get all the way to the Ancient Sword and then guess what happens. Gus is down, Josef is nearly dead and I figure it's a good time to leave now I have that. Only...Warp won't work. What the hell. I can only assume I have to level it up? i didn't count on that crap. While trying to run from the dungeon I died because Flee is absolutely useless in this game.

EDIT:

HOW DID I MISS THAT THERE'S A MAGIC SHOP IN THE FIRST DAMNED TOWN? Fuck I feel stupid.

edited 24th Aug '14 1:34:09 PM by Nikkolas

You know how you were attacked on your way out of the Snow Cave? That's why Warp and Teleport don't work there, because you could skip the event. I recall this also goes for a couple other dungeons where stuff happens on the way out.

Gotta say, as much as I really don't like II, the one thing that never fails to elicit feels is Josef's daughter waiting for her father to come back.

No, he'd already drained them of their magic by that point. They were still powerful, but no longer the cornerstone of magic.

Now, they helped him when they opened the gate, and then later found the hiding Espers, which allowed him to take a whole ton of Magicite and create the floating continent.

Yeah that makes sense. I checked and there are two more locations I can't Warp out of. One is the final dungeon which i figured and the other is the Colosseum. i think that's where we fight the Behemoth. That was a pretty cool part of the game I think if I'm remembering right.

Anyway, FFII Progress Report.

Just destroyed the Dreadnaught. Guy has like 1,000 HP while Firion and Gordon, the two with the next highest HP, only have about 300. It's kinda absurd.

I think Gordon is about to leave us soon anyway if I'm remembering right.

The real way to get Gil is to fight those Ogre Mages. They have a high probability of dropping Berserk Scrolls which go for 5,000 a pop. I kept one to teach it to Maria and sold about 6 or 7 more. That plus all the Gil enemies are dropping now got me up to 80,000 or so. Back down to 60K because I bought a couple Cottages and about 8 Ethers just so I'm on the safe side.

Oh and I'm noticing a pattern here with how I have to play. I go into the dungeon, I collect most of the treasure, gain levels and Gil, theN i have to run the hell out of said dungeon and go restock items and heal. I did that with the Snow Cave, Kas'Ion and now the Dreadnaught. Guy just eats up my Hi Potion constantly and I keep running out of MP.

I think now is a good time to stop and do some magic level grinding. Maria has to get her Fire and Bolt up to level 3 to join her Ice and also i want to get Berserk up a level or 2 because I hear it's really good. Also Guy can't do anything except Attack so Berserk on him seems like a smart move. Firion meanwhile has to train up Shield and Shell.

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I wonder if I should scrap my challenge or at least give Guy another Job because holy hell, boss fights are proving way too easy. Basically all Firion and Maria do is buff him up with Shield and Berserk and then he kills the boss in a couple turns. That's how the Chimera and Fake Princess bosses have gone anyway. I'm fine with him being my main damage dealer but he does TOO MUCH damage

Maybe give him a dagger or something but keep him completely unarmored. The odd thing is tht I remember boss fights being harder in Dawn of Souls but regular encounters were easier. I think magic did more damage in DOS... Or maybe the Gigas enemies had less HP. I remember distinctly because I grinded attack spells for the Gigas encounters in Deist Cavern because weapons were pretty much useless. But even my level 3 Bolt/Ice/Fire do nothing to the things in Origins. I think I grinded them up to Level 5 in DOS though so maybe that's why.

But yeah, the Fake Princess was a bitch in DOS. She had Level XVI Blink I believe. Here? She died after two attacks from Guy. It's kinda disappointing.

edited 25th Aug '14 10:46:43 AM by Nikkolas

Taking on FFIII DS. Anything I should know going in?

It's really hard compared with other F Fs.

Save your Phoenix Downs.

Save often.

When you meet a guy named Gigameth, make everyone a Dragoon.

edited 27th Aug '14 12:43:59 PM by Pulse

Dragoons are actually good in that game?

If by "good", you mean that one particularly horrible boss has a weakness to Dragoons that reduces him from game-snappingly frustrating to just really frustrating, then yeah.

Aren't Dragoons usually good in non-tactics Final Fantasies?

I don't think they're terribly good in FFIV, except against Barbariccia.

They're passable in FFVIII and FFX, awesome in FFIX, and "pretty good" in FFVII. And in FFV IIRC a godsend against Shinryu.

IIRC X-2 didn't have any, unless the international version (which would be in the HD rerelease) added them.

edited 27th Aug '14 1:35:47 PM by EvaUnit01

The issue is that Gigameth is actually Garuda, a boss that's very obnoxious to fight with everything besides Jump, which is only kinda obnoxious.

Kain is pretty awesome in IV DS, especially with Darkness and... Cry.

edited 27th Aug '14 1:36:18 PM by Pulse

Don't forget Focus and Limit Break.

Well, y'know. First round everyone makes mistakes.