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selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
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#1: Jan 18th 2023 at 1:42:28 PM

I know that I question some tropes' significance a lot, but I couldn't help but wonder what makes broad general Occupation Tropes, such as The Barber, The Driver, Fashion Designer, and Fashion Model, tropeworthy when they don't have anything associated with the job like a stereotype (i.e. Chinese Laborer), morality (i.e. Evil Chef), an attitude (i.e. Apathetic Teacher), or a common portrayal (i.e. Sensitive Artist).

I mean, I can see that Fashion Model is a supertrope to Model Couple and Fanservice Model, but it serves no significance (and I stand by this idea that tropes should almost always have narrative significance) in fiction. They're mostly used to categorize the characters, as in "X is/works as The Barber period."

I also can see that these may have a bit of significance in them being common stock jobs in fiction, but even then, a single broad trope for all stock jobs is enough. Or maybe turning tropes like Fashion Model into example-less supertropes would be a good idea.

selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
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BlackMage43 Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#4: Jan 20th 2023 at 9:51:35 PM

Some of them list the common stereotypes associated with them in the description. For example: The Fashion Model for example mentions how it's portrayed as a glamorous profession that attracts vain people, especially women. The Barber mentions how barbers, and barber shops in general are a source of gossip and information among 'important' men. The Driver is about a stock minor driver character that may have a gag, gimmick or a unique scene where he interacts with the main characters while he's driving them somewhere.

Of course, because of the generic names, they tend to attract tons of ZCE and I personally find a lot of their descriptions often focus too much on just describing the profession. But there's usually something tropeworthy in there, somewhere.

selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
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#5: Jan 20th 2023 at 10:05:06 PM

Yeah, most of these tropes or jobs, in general, have stereotypes associated with them irl even if the descriptions don't mention them.

Fashion Model is defined as "This is when characters get paid to wear clothes, whether simple or fancy, to make the clothes look good." The rest is just to flesh out the description; being a vain or mean model isn't a requirement afaik. The Barber is just a male version of Chatty Hairdresser, but even then, Chatty Hairdresser is for both men and women, so The Barber might be a duplicate.

Those general occupation tropes should be reworked into being "the job + its stereotype/fictional depiction," and ZCEs should be purged in TRS.

selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
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#6: Jan 24th 2023 at 10:48:00 PM

Update: I went ahead and started working on Fashion Model. I made a wick check for Fashion Model, and just like I said; it's a ZCE magnet. The trope's barely used for vain, superficial models or to show how it's a glamorous profession like Black Mage 43 pointed out.

Will finish up the wick check and take it to TRS.

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