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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#51: May 5th 2023 at 8:54:12 PM

Because Adam IS so underbaked, I sort of see his actions from the point Ayesha dies until Groot saves him as just acting on inertia. He doesn't have anyone to tell him to change course. And of course he's still trying to save the rest of the Sovereign.

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#52: May 6th 2023 at 12:54:06 AM

I saw this recently. Freaking loved it. I liked how they really were not afraid to get dark but also kept the humour from the first few films.

I like how Gamora and Quill do not end up together and Peter does seem to move on. I was afraid the movie would just use her to replace the one who died but no, she is acknowledged to be her own person and not a ressurection of the original Gamora.

I do share the sentiment that Adam was only in this out of obligation from the last films end credits scene. He is kind of an afterthought. I legit thought he was going to have this thing about wanting to avenge his mom after the Evolutionary kills her, but that does not really happen.

In terms of ranking I would say

2.

3.

1.

I still love the first one but I feel like the sequels refined and added onto all the things that made the original work.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53: May 6th 2023 at 5:13:05 AM

At the end of the movie, One of the members of the New Guardians is one of the kids they saved from the High Evolutionary. And it looks like her fists glow in an almost Captain Marvel way, though much less powerful, unless I mistook what I saw. Anyway, is she a comics character?

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#54: May 6th 2023 at 5:25:28 AM

IIRC that's Phylla Vell, a character associated with the Guardians, Captain Marvel, and Adam Warlock.

Edited by lalalei2001 on May 6th 2023 at 8:26:26 AM

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#55: May 6th 2023 at 6:07:53 AM

I think so too. In the theater though I thought Rocket called her Lyla and I was like Aw that’s nice he named her after his friend.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#56: May 6th 2023 at 6:49:15 AM

Rocket's backstory really makes the events of Infinity War even sadder for Rocket in hindsight, knowing that its his second time losing a family.

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#57: May 6th 2023 at 6:52:40 AM

And it now also makes sense that he's a lot more used to tragedy than Thor is in Endgame. You can say a lot about how the other Guardians aren't written super well in the non-James Gunn movies but Rocket's the sole exception, I feel.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#58: May 6th 2023 at 6:59:21 AM

Edit: Wait, nevermind, I misread what you said.

..I do think Nebula makes out alright, though.

Edited by diddyknux on May 6th 2023 at 9:00:26 AM

LucienRen Since: Jan, 2023
#59: May 6th 2023 at 9:06:38 AM

Speaking of Nebula, her development still amazes me.

When she switched sides in the second movie, I assumed it would be a case of Nominal hero, where she would only help the heroes, because they have a common enemy, or because Gamora convinced her, I was surprised that in the following movies was genuinely heroic and a member of the "family".

she even stayed with the avengers for 5 years, even though with Thanos and Gamora dead and the gems destroyed, she no longer had a reason to help the heroes.

Edited by LucienRen on May 6th 2023 at 9:07:39 AM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#60: May 6th 2023 at 11:40:48 AM

I sorely wish Disney Plus let you create and share playlists of films, episodes and scenes so I could create a play list that was just the guardians narrative in Infinity War/Endgame, because as of this week my girlfriend has fallen in love with the guardians, but the larger MCU just isn't going to appeal to her.

It would be nice just to flick on a play list and watch their story play out. Especially because there's so much good Rocket content just buried in the Infinity-Game two parter.

Regarding above I also heard Rocket refer to that gal as Lyla which makes me think he named her after his dead friend. But it's not impossible I miss heard it as Phylla. She is the most iconic member of the guardians not yet adapted. But at the same time it makes me sad that her relationship with Moonstone impossible as Drax's seemingly dead daughter just couldn't be that young. I highly doubt that Dave would want to return to the roll of Drax again to make such a character adaption worthwhile though.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#61: May 6th 2023 at 11:49:17 AM

Huh.

The one thing Comic Book Drax and MCU Drax have in common is that they are (or rather were in MCU Drax's case) Fathers.

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#62: May 6th 2023 at 12:23:55 PM

[up][up] The subtitles reveal that she's Phylla.

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#63: May 6th 2023 at 2:06:13 PM

But it's not impossible I miss heard it as Phylla. She is the most iconic member of the guardians not yet adapted.

Well, the most iconic one besides Nova. And I'm pretty sure it's not possible to have him at this point with Xandar already long destroyed offscreen and the Corps just being generic space cops in the MCU.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#64: May 6th 2023 at 2:20:03 PM

I was a little bit disappointed to see that the Nova corps continue to be utterly absent from the MCU after their Guardians Vol 1 debut. Having rewatched that film this week the Nova actors give really fun performances I'd like to return to.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#65: May 6th 2023 at 4:23:17 PM

Mantis dropping she was Peter's sis was pretty casual considering it was only revealed in a Christmas special that could've easily been missed

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#66: May 6th 2023 at 4:43:33 PM

Then that's on whoever missed it, that's not James Gunn's fault. tongue

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#67: May 6th 2023 at 9:08:19 PM

Guys, I was planning to watch this movie next week but what's your guys thoughts on this movie (without spoiling it for me) and do you recommend me to see it since I watch both movies of Gotg movies (including Avengers Infinity War and Christmas Special)?

Edited by Bubblepig on May 6th 2023 at 9:21:03 AM

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#68: May 6th 2023 at 9:12:44 PM

Yes

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#69: May 6th 2023 at 11:00:50 PM

If you liked the other Guardians films, you'll like this one. The GOTG franchise is Marvel's most consistent.

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#70: May 7th 2023 at 12:00:58 AM

So, MCU de-aged another queer character? I'm shocked!

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#71: May 7th 2023 at 1:35:28 AM

Guardians 3 has the same heart and visual flare as the previous films. I'd say it's a lot more heart wrenching then the previous ones, there's a lot of cruelty in it that's a departure from what you might expect from a guardians film.

But yes it's really solid. Funny, great character work, and emotionally satisfying.

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#72: May 7th 2023 at 4:31:31 AM

Saw it yesterday, I really loved it. It's a great conclusion to the trilogy.

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MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#73: May 7th 2023 at 5:57:11 AM

James Gunn's ability to juggle seven different characters while giving each one something to do and an emotional arc never ceases to amaze me. Please, please make the DCEU as good as the Guardians movies. Godspeed.

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#74: May 7th 2023 at 6:47:52 AM

Incidentally, the film has 81% Freshness at Rotten Tomatoes, placing it slightly above She-Hulk but not as good as Ant-Man 1. That seems a bit low to me given its peers in that space.

Typically, I like to take a look at contrarian reviews. If the film is good, I'll read some bad reviews of it to understand what parts of it didn't click with people. If the film is bad, I'll read some good reviews and see what aspects of the film gelled with others that didn't quite measure up for me.

But the negative reviews of Guardians 3 are... something else, man. Main criticisms seem to be:

  1. It's trying to make me feel emotions.
  2. Animal cruelty depicted onscreen made me feel bad about what's happening, and despite being a professional critic, I somehow didn't realize that this was the point.
  3. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is a fucking asshole and the film should have been more gay to spite him.

No, I'm serious about that last one. That's an actual criticism.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, The latest installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, features a ragtag band of misfits and outcasts fighting a megalomaniac eugenics-spouting despot. It celebrates found family and finding your true self, no matter how improbable that self is, or how different it is from what your parents and the world expect. It’s Florida Governor Ron De Santis’ worst nightmare, right?

Well, not exactly. De Santis has been engaged in a high profile war with Disney—the biggest employer in central Florida (and parent company to Marvel) — since the company issued a mild objection to De Santis’ sweeping “Don’t Say Gay” ban. That ban places tight restrictions on discussing LGBT issues, or effectively LGBT people, in schools. Disney this month sued De Santis on first amendment grounds.

In that context, it’s tempting to read Guardians of the Galaxy as a show of support for queer people: director James Gunn giving the governor a patented superhero biff in the snoot.

The truth is less defiant, though. Guardians of the Galaxy carefully avoids explicit queer themes even as it nods in their general direction. It also continues the MCU’s tradition of villainous progressives—utopian dreamers who want to change the world for the better, and end up just slaughtering people.

The film doesn’t show that Disney is determined to advance progressive goals. It shows mostly that Disney would rather avoid controversy and wants to sell tickets to everyone—even Ron.

This is a professional review of the movie Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

Like, don't get me wrong, I would like more LGBT representation in the MCU. But I don't think spiting Ron DeSantis is the goal here?

Edited by TobiasDrake on May 7th 2023 at 6:51:20 AM

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#75: May 7th 2023 at 6:56:35 AM

Iiiiiii don’t think a eugenicist fits with the usual idea of villainous progressive

Like, the critic gets there’s more to that then just saying they want to improve the world in some way, right? I need to know they know eugenics isn’t a progressive policy

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