Note that the page was originally proposed and launched
as Preaching to the Choir and still primarily talks about the phenomenon in fandom in the description. It was renamed in January 2012, with this being what it looked like the last time the Internet Archive caught it prior to the rename; I ended up going into an Internet Archive version of the TRS morgue to track down the relevant thread. (Since the morgue's history (thankfully) goes back to 2010, I'm guessing ~Septimus Heap didn't catch that thread when adding old TRS threads to discussion pages a while back because of the old name, used as the title of the thread, now being a redirect?)
I suspect the best course of action would be a split with the objective phenomenon getting the current title and the fandom phenomenon finding a new (third) name that doesn't overlap (too much) with one of the Logical Fallacies or another broader real-world term.
Yes, I did by default add the links to the trope name linked from the thread, not the new one. Sometimes a trope that has a TRS thread is later merged by a different thread, then the link to the old TRS might make no sense on the merge target's discussion page.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
About to make Confirmation Bias Wick Check. Also, two of the redirects are named Clappy Humo(u)r... is this an inside joke?
Edited by NitroIndigo on Oct 2nd 2022 at 11:03:24 AM
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
It means "I agree with the insult you are making about the target." Somewhat related, but I'm not sure that the redirect is appropriate.
Yeah, Confirmation Bias is an actual term and should probably be treated like the various Fallacy pages. This page seems to be made up of:
- In-Universe confirmation bias
- "Clappy Humor" where a work is more dedicated to getting their audience to agree with their statements rather than laugh or appreciate other artistic merits
- A work whose appeal focuses on a fairly narrow audience while alienating an opposing audience.
The first one is very objective, the second will likely be prone to misuse and the third very subjective.
Do you not know that in the service one must always choose the lesser of two weevils!
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
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If it is on-mission to document "clappy humour", it would probably only work as Word of God-confirmed trivia or something. (Also, I always called that style of """"humour"""" "pointing-and-laughing".)
Doesn't Anvilicious cover Clappy Humor?
Not at all - Anvilicious discusses unsuble presentation, clappy humour does not have to be blatant.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Something I realized and could possibly help better define Confirmation Bias is that we don't have an actual page for Echo Chamber, just the TV Tropes series.
Do you not know that in the service one must always choose the lesser of two weevils!
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
Also, a note about how I'm sorting examples in the wick check (which I'd appreciate help with): as well as entries on YMMV pages, I'm also counting wicks that describe real people (usually no-one in particular) having confirmation bias as audience reactions. Is this clear?
Edited by NitroIndigo on Oct 5th 2022 at 6:39:59 PM
I saw Confirmation Bias on YMMV.The Conversion Bureau and considered removing it, thinking it was inflammatory misuse of an objective trope... then I looked at the trope page and noticed that it is an audience reaction. However, most of the on-page examples are in-universe, and it seems to be wicked on more objective work pages than YMMV pages. I'll start a wick check later, but do you think it needs TRS?