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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#1: Jan 29th 2022 at 8:04:53 PM

Now, I asumes some people in this forum are well used to world of darkness line of white wolf and the new company, well they have release novel for a while and this is the thread for them.

I will go right on the bat with my favorite one: the Angel: the fallen trilogy, one of the best for me, why? first of all it contrast the grittiness of world of darkness with overly evocative nearly exalted like power of angel in their prime, seen hasmed, sabithel or Usuiel fight each other is a delight to the pages but also as them as chararter: Usuiel is probably one of the "good guy being closet to the bad guys" I haven seen in years, Sabitiel is a bitch but you get to sort of.....pitty her? and what happen to Hasmed is sad, even if the end he have it coming.

Also is rendition of luficer is one of the best, one of the polar oposite of supernatural luficer really, specially the bit of "what if god stop being god" that let me really thinking as an atheist.

One funny one, I read this and I didnt know it have anything to do with world of darkness, is only when hasmed talked to a vampire that suddenly I was like "ohhhhhh I make sense now".

So, anyone else here read a world of darkness novel?.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Jan 29th 2022 at 9:53:43 PM

I always felt the Lucifer in those books was a tad disappointing as he basically just felt like John Constantine. Speaking as a theist, I did like adding the ambiguity that the God of Demon: The Fallen DIDN'T do a bunch of evil to humanity but that something else happened.

I think the line was, "What if God didn't break the world? What if he caught it when it fell?"

Mind you, in my WOD games, I had The Reveal for the fate of God to be that he'd broken himself up into pieces and given one to each human (which is why humans can do True Magick).

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#3: Jan 30th 2022 at 3:57:41 PM

In my case I feel diferent but maybe because im a atheist so luficer come more as ex revolutionary wondering were things when south. Is conversation with Usiel was like that, specially as he rage against the other demons for becoming what they are.

I think the best part is the idea god sacrifice is condition of godhood when he die as jesus, the revelation was so shocking luficer barely refuse to even though at the idea.

And I mean....if god is dead, what that means for the devil? how you can rebel against something that is dead?.

it is a very....sobering thought.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Jan 30th 2022 at 5:15:08 PM

True but part of what made the Demon: The Fallen interpretation so unique was the fact Satan isn't a rebel in the WOD. He's following God's command to love humanity as much as God if not more so. It's just its a shitty contradictory order that forces them to rebel because caring for humanity is against the order to leave them alone, Prime Directive style.

But yes, I did like how all the demons broke free from Hell and foudn...nothing.

No angels to fight, humanity not even believing they exist, and half of them if not more completely insane.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#5: Jan 31st 2022 at 3:02:55 PM

Luficer is the one hit the hardest because he start the damn rebelion, meaning that now he have nothing to find, demon the fallen is pretty much "break is lose and all demons are here" kind of thing.

Now another review would be the mummy: resurrection trilogy.

I find this....so so, is dificult because mummy was one of the last game to come(on the other hand, so was demon and yet the trilogy is excellent), so this one have no excuse, I will said my biggest issue is that the mummies themselves are not protagonist in the true sense of the work, so it feel more more a plot that just kinda sort of happen to have mummies on it, instead they have hunters as protagonist.

Which it bring me to complain number 2: they are not that intersting? I mean hunter always feel off because they are empower by....something, I dont know, hunter metaplot feel off and weird as hell, something white wolf just cook up and never really add, they chararters arent bad for themselves and they have a good introductory scenes where they killed a vampire but since isnt about them as hunter but all the weird stuff with osiris heart they feel kinda sorta suplerflous, they were thing like the protagonist sleeping with one of them even after dancing with is old ex boyfriend and...nothing really come up of it, since the hunter she sleep end dead, so it feel a lot of nothing.

Not surprising the best were the dead mafia guy and mummy, the first one is hilarious in his way and show a lot of willpower and I feel bad he got destroy in the end, the other feel intersting because I expect him to be a minor villian and surprise me with a good anti heroe.

So that is my review of that.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Jan 31st 2022 at 3:20:13 PM

Random Aside:

I actually was the guy who got the Clan Novels reprinted on Kindle. I am not a publisher but I am an author and I contacted White Wolf/Paradox through my fandom connections and put them in touch with my publisher.

Sadly, I wasn't able to get either to bite at republishing all the other books.

Which saddens me as I want the Red Death dammit! :)

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#7: Feb 10th 2022 at 6:48:25 PM

Now to review so far one of the worst trilogy, I call war of the horizon.

The novel have a intersting plot: the protagonist is a sort of supersoldier made by the tecnocracy that escape and aparently there is nephandi and all the mages and vampire and.....ughhh..

Is hard to describe the plot of the novel because damn is massive: it bring chararter from mage and some from vampires, many from the manual as well(the villian is from giovanni sourcebook) so it feel crowed at times, the plot is also a massive plot pileup from multiple factions so that was good since it was hard to predict were the plot could go.

Now that being said the problem with the book it kinda require to read A LOT of book to get who is who and most of them were cameo, near the entire progenitor just die suddenly and you dont get to morn them at all.

Also I will said a lot of chararter are flat including the protagonist, aside the whole mistery of is identity that never got resolve, there is also the issue of his romantic interest that got one of the worst plot tumor ever, getting married with her in....weeks, yeah the whole thing is bad.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
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