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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#1: Nov 16th 2021 at 5:09:59 AM

A week before the first two episodes launch, the initial impressions are out:

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/hawkeye-first-reactions/

Full reviews to follow. Initial feedback seems good.

What are you expecting/hoping to see from Hawkeye and his new partner... Also-Hawkeye?

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#2: Nov 16th 2021 at 6:52:07 AM

It is my most anticipated MCU show out for 2021, I loved the Fraction run. Can't wait for next week.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#3: Nov 16th 2021 at 7:21:19 AM

I'm wondering how true to the run they're going to be. Like are we going to see a newspaper headline "Everything Terrible: oh god somebody do something"?

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#4: Nov 16th 2021 at 7:48:47 AM

Personally I am just waiting for the appearance of Lucky the Pizza Dog, the very goodest of boys.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#5: Nov 17th 2021 at 8:26:01 AM

https://youtu.be/9whAuILMXmQ

A clip has been released. Doesn't reveal a lot plot wise but an insight into the tone and it looks like our leads have some appropriately snappy conversations.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#6: Nov 17th 2021 at 5:18:49 PM

She's got a point Clint. Superheroes have recognizable costumes, distinctive looks.

You on the other hand do not.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#7: Nov 17th 2021 at 11:31:48 PM

Don't think he ever was an official Superhero in the MCU. He was a SHIELD agent.

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#8: Nov 17th 2021 at 11:53:47 PM

Not past TWS.

Edited by Synchronicity on Nov 17th 2021 at 1:53:56 PM

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#9: Nov 18th 2021 at 12:00:37 AM

That's actually a good point. Did he "retire" before or after the whole Hydra debacle? He (unlike Widow) wasn't part of TWS where it was revealed but he could conceivably have just been doing another mission.

It would have been interesting to see where he landed on the whole Project Farsight debate..

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#10: Nov 18th 2021 at 1:01:59 AM

Hawkeye didn't retire till after Age of Ultron, which is a year after the whole HYDRA expose thing.

So while he was no longer an agent of SHIELD (as SHIELD was no longer a thing), he was still an Avenger.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#11: Nov 18th 2021 at 2:10:52 AM

As for why Hawkeye deserves a show, Feige said that he really just wanted more Jeremy Renner, but the thing that made him first realize that Hawkeye could carry a solo story was the aforementioned Age Of Ultron scene. Feige said it’s one of his favorites in the MCU (which is saying something, since it’s one of only two or three really good scenes in that entire movie), and it convinced him that a whole story could be hung on the kind of mentor/mentee relationship that Clint developed with Wanda in that moment.

Also during the press conference, Vera Farmiga (who plays the mother of Hailee Steinfeld’s Kate Bishop) revealed that she is actually a trained archer, and Tony Dalton (who plays a version of Jacques Duquesne, a.k.a. the Swordsman) used to be a fencer. Dalton and Renner also offered somewhat-suspiciously canned “I have no idea what you’re talking about” responses to a question about either of them eventually wearing their head-to-toe purple comic book costumes (they literally said it at the exact same time), so… take from that what you will.

https://www.avclub.com/kevin-feige-says-one-age-of-ultron-moment-convinced-him-1848069522

Edited by windleopard on Nov 18th 2021 at 2:11:39 AM

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#12: Nov 18th 2021 at 2:51:01 AM

[up][up] thank you. Presumably this means he's "off the clock" in this series so we probably won't see other Avengers popping up.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#13: Nov 18th 2021 at 3:08:59 AM

[up] That's my impression as well.

Officially retired or not, he probably could call some people if things truly get out of hand, but he wants to handle the problem as quietly and as quickly as possible since all he really wants to do is get home to his family in time for Christmas.

Not currently betting on any other Avengers cameos, but there's still a lot we haven't seen. We know Yelena Belova will be involved but she's been absent from the previews. Echo will probably also be a fairly substantial character since this is all they have to sell people on her series (and this role may have sold Marvel on the series in the first place) but she's only been in the previews for a second. So if Doctor Strange shows up for an episode, I'll be surprised but not completely dumbfounded.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#14: Nov 18th 2021 at 4:51:22 AM

I certainly wouldn't rule out cameos from a few other characters but I presume it will be setting up rather than calling back, if that's the right phrasing.

If/when Yelena does show up it will be interesting to see if the Contessa also appears or if she's going to be kept in the background.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#15: Nov 18th 2021 at 1:59:24 PM

New Hawkeye Spot including a nod to a classic costume.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#16: Nov 19th 2021 at 5:44:29 AM

More clips, this time featuring Mother and Father Bishop.

They are definitely trying not to give away a lot of the plot with these clips.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#17: Nov 19th 2021 at 10:02:51 AM

Kate’s mother playing a more prominent role is pretty different considering she was absent for most of Kate’s years in the comics (until she became a driving mystery in Thompson’s run) and Dad Bishop was seen with a string of vastly younger girlfriends.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#18: Nov 19th 2021 at 10:33:49 AM

[up][up]Dalton is playing Swordsman, not Derek Bishop. I don't know if they've said Derek is in the show, though Brian d'Arcy James just sitting in the cast list without a named role yet...

[up]It's gotten something of a Narrowed It Down to the Guy I Recognize "Eleanor is Madame Masque" reaction.

Oh yeah, and meet the tracksuit draculas.

Edited by Synchronicity on Nov 19th 2021 at 2:14:39 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#19: Nov 19th 2021 at 10:39:29 AM

Bro.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#20: Nov 19th 2021 at 12:11:04 PM

[up][up]I believe Derek Bishop is played by Brian d'arcy James,But in flashbacks only because he's dead.

Edited by Hawkeye86 on Nov 19th 2021 at 3:15:44 PM

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#21: Nov 22nd 2021 at 4:14:42 PM

I must admit, I am unreasonably invested in Clint making it home in time for Christmas and will be very disappointed if he doesn't.

Kate can come too if she's not in a position to spend time with her family for whatever reason.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#22: Nov 23rd 2021 at 9:55:44 AM

Reviews starting to appear:

https://www.empireonline.com/tv/reviews/hawkeye/

Seems like this is much less "important" than Loki or F&TWS but not necessarily as a bad thing. The duo have good chemistry.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#23: Nov 23rd 2021 at 10:29:10 AM

I think that’s pretty much what everyone expected. Hawkeye’s always been a “lower stakes” character, man’s been trying to retire for like 6 years, and at worst Kate’s next appearance can avoid Continuity Lockout with a brief “I’m Hawkeye now too btw”.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#24: Nov 23rd 2021 at 10:45:49 AM

[up]Regardless of how it's done specifically, her introduction to the active Avengers (as opposed to just Hawkeye) can easily serve as her introduction to the moviegoing audience.

Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#25: Nov 23rd 2021 at 10:46:30 AM

Reviews are looking positive, I'm not expecting some crazy Earth-threatening plot. Hyped to see how Yelena ties into the plot.

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