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#1: May 9th 2021 at 9:04:58 PM

The Roast is a trope. It's in main, it lists media examples, it's something that covers multiple media. It has a list of "common tropes" in roasts. Okay, not inherently bad. Then those "common tropes" go on to list specific instances of those tropes in specific roasts. That's... not what a trope page is for. This has to be a relic of the olden days (probably due to a lack of namespaces?), especially since it lists things like "Funny Aneurysm" Moment on the same page as the other tropes, which wouldn't be appropriate on a work page.

So what we need is to split off these "roast" series into their own work pages — for example, Series.Comedy Central Roasts. There's a TLP work page draft for one specific roast, but I don't see why we can't use it to cover the various roasts in that series if they do have tropable content.

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#2: May 10th 2021 at 5:56:58 AM

The Internet Archive's oldest version of the page only has the trope examples as though it were a work page... but it also only dates to 2009. I had thought that would have been after work namespaces became standard, but all the work-page links in the version of Distaff Counterpart it links to (and badly misuses), which is actually a week or two older, are to Main. So this is definitely from a period when we didn't make as firm a distinction between trope and work pages, or at least from when something like this could have fallen through the cracks.

(Reserving Main for tropes was definitely more of a policy shift than a technical one; I'm pretty sure Angel, for one, was always in that namespace to distinguish it from actual angels, and in fact the use of "Series" for Live-Action TV is a relic of the days when we were truly TV Tropes, which had definitely ended by 2009.)

Edited by MorganWick on May 10th 2021 at 6:05:40 AM

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