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Proglottid Since: Mar, 2010
#12401: Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:54:05 AM

Its really sweet but also really sad that V Shojo's three "refugee" members have all reacted with complete gobsmackery at having management that actually do management things. Like, it's so alien a concept to them they don't know how to process it.

It's just like watching someone in an abusive household learn there's a normal

Hylarn (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#12402: Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:56:40 AM

VShojo has had six former agency talents...

Proglottid Since: Mar, 2010
#12403: Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:08:08 AM

Well, the LAST three former agency talents, then. Kson and Henya left on good terms by all accounts. Nazuna is a whole other mess.

Edited by Proglottid on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:08:37 AM

ShiningStardust Since: Jun, 2017
#12404: Apr 22nd 2024 at 6:17:16 AM

Kson and Henya are still in Vshojo. Nazuna is the only one who left.

EDIT : oh wait, you mean they left their old agency on good terms

Edited by ShiningStardust on Apr 22nd 2024 at 8:18:55 PM

AnoBakaDesu Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
#12405: Apr 22nd 2024 at 10:17:09 AM

"JDON my soul" follows Bae everywhere.

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#12406: Apr 22nd 2024 at 2:34:27 PM

Like, it's so alien a concept to them they don't know how to process it.

It's just like watching someone in an abusive household learn there's a normal

It's really teling that pretty much all the people who have left Nijisanji recently seem to be shocked by even basic competence etc.

Heck, it's not just the ones who signed on with a different company either - Doki's indie and she's been shocked at the regular at the creative freedom and opportunities you can actually have as a Vtuber.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Apr 22nd 2024 at 11:42:18 AM

Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.
lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12408: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:00:42 PM

[up][up] Mint, too. She joked about being able to play all the games she wants to now, but whether she should really do them all right away.

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
Like reflections in the glass!
#12409: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:21:35 PM

Not a good look for Nijisanji. It seems like they were actively stifling their talents to such a degree out of overregulation.

It runs afoul of Grey's Law. Becoming incompetent to the point of malice.

ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#12410: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:55:37 PM

[up][up] Eh, that one I'm not willing to toss as another one of 9634's sins. That's one of the tradeoffs for working under a corporate label, particularly a Japanese one. Even the talents under Cover sometimes chafe over not being able to play the games they'd like to. Mumei (and Fauna), for example, took forever before she could finally get perms for Civilzation. Kaela, meanwhile, seems to have been unable to get permissions for Helldivers 2. Gura also had a long-ass list of games she was trying to get permissions for, though that was right before her hiatus, so who knows what happened to those. 9634 might just be straight up incompetent and completely ignores the Livers' individual requests to get them perms, sure, but Mint seemed more happy about not needing perms anymore than anything.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
omega2900 Just Some Guy from The Midwest, where everything is MID! (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: In my bunk
Just Some Guy
#12411: Apr 22nd 2024 at 4:45:45 PM

As much as people hate the idea of having to get perms in order to stream certain games, we nearly lost Mio because of this.

Help me. I can't get it out of my head.
diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12412: Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:18:25 PM

True, that wasn't fair of me to say.

ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#12413: Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:33:06 PM

Yeah, Cover was almost forced to their lesson the hard way about how important getting perms is as a company. And this wasn’t some far-off event in time, either; this was back in June 2020, when hololive was still getting their overseas momentum. Mio was forced into a month-long hiatus, but at the time folks were completely uncertain when she was coming back, and a ton of VODs got privated, or in Subaru’s case due to mismanagement, outright deleted. The whole fiasco enough that Sora very publically tweeted her frustration over the entire thing and how it was handled.

Yes, it can be frustrating that the talents can’t play all the games or sing all the karaoke songs they want, but it’s a price to pay in exchange for being under a corporate umbrella.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
Hylarn (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#12414: Apr 22nd 2024 at 7:37:59 PM

Kaela, meanwhile, seems to have been unable to get permissions for Helldivers 2

Published by Sony, so that's probably never happening

ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#12415: Apr 22nd 2024 at 8:43:56 PM

Yeah, Sony is ridiculously stupid when it comes to perms. We could be getting Botan laughing her head off at the shenanigans she and SubaChocoLunaTan could get up to in the game, but alas.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
omega2900 Just Some Guy from The Midwest, where everything is MID! (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: In my bunk
Just Some Guy
ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#12417: Apr 22nd 2024 at 9:01:15 PM

Konami is also really weird with theirs; for example, clippers aren't allowed to show gameplay of "Momotarou Dentetsu". Capcom, meanwhile, forces everyone to stream in Japanese, even if it's, say, Fauna playing Resident Evil 4.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
GalaxyLight777 Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#12418: Apr 22nd 2024 at 9:04:12 PM

Capcom also has a "spoiler ban" from what I remember; the Ace Attorney streams of some holomembers always cut off the ending portion of the game's chapters.

"I know we'll make it cause somehow, the universe is fun now!" ~Sana
Hylarn (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#12419: Apr 22nd 2024 at 9:28:56 PM

And here I thought Nintendo was bad with perms.

Nintendo seems to be one of the easier ones do deal with. The Pokemon Company has some deeply stupid rules, but first-party Nintendo seems to just have a blanket okay

terumokou Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object from In a bamboo forest full of bunnies, California Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object
#12420: Apr 22nd 2024 at 9:56:37 PM

In lighter news:

https://twitter.com/MintFantome/status/1782614850306245005

Another ex-Niji gets her silver play button.

Burning love!
ShiningStardust Since: Jun, 2017
#12421: Apr 22nd 2024 at 10:42:49 PM

I'm not sure about Pokemon having stupid rules, but the one and only thing I find odd is how Holomems generally don't go all the way into the games, like playing the postgame and the DLCs.

It's a vague memory, but I think I recall seeing a vtuber from another company playing S/V's Indigo Disk DLC, so there should be no restriction on that. So who knows why Holomems don't stream the same thing.

Edited by ShiningStardust on Apr 23rd 2024 at 12:43:41 AM

Hylarn (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#12422: Apr 22nd 2024 at 10:57:16 PM

Pokemon only gives perms for the first few months after a game releases, not including DLC. Except for Nijisanji, who can do whatever

ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#12423: Apr 22nd 2024 at 10:58:15 PM

Pokémon Co. only gives limited time perms to hololive for their games, hence why the girls only really play the base games for some time.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#12424: Apr 23rd 2024 at 12:01:29 AM

In more Vtubers getting Play Buttons news: Pumpkin Potion, the Cartoon Vtuber, got hers.

https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx6uVZWcAnAkdQzAC3CKsWWGSB4nwlGGxz

This one's not a Kurosanji dunk, this is just me being happy for a Vtuber with a wicked cool concept. grin

MetaflarePrime Yubi yubi! from Bed Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Yubi yubi!
#12425: Apr 23rd 2024 at 8:24:48 AM

Raden tells a story of how she stuck up for an exchange student friend at an old job

"Have a good day. Have a good week. Have a good month. Have a good year. Have a good life." ~Civia

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