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king15 Having Faun from not certain Since: Mar, 2024
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#2501: Mar 25th 2024 at 4:14:16 PM

Also, while Deadpool as a character has obviously developed over time, the key ideas have remained the same. Meanwhile, with Harley, the original idea for the character (somewhat sympathetic Joker henchwoman) has significantly shifted (to a anti-heroic Deadpool expy). Deadpool is more (consistently) liked now than Harley because he is more of a consistent character and therefore, even if written poorly, people can still see aspects of the character they like inside. With Harley, the idea of who she is has changed so much that it is ambiguous what a well-written Harley even is because people have different ideas of who she should be. I don't think there's anything wrong with different continuities having different interpretations of the character, or the character in the main continuity developing, but it does mean that it's much harder to write her in a way that satisfies people because fans (and often the writers) will have different ideas of who she is.

Edited by king15 on Mar 25th 2024 at 1:07:40 PM

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#2502: Mar 25th 2024 at 7:46:37 PM

Someone pointed out that Lobo would be a much better DC Deadpool then Harley. Which makes me think the only reason DC went with her is because she also wore a red and black costume.

Its so shallow a reasoning it might just be true.

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#2503: Mar 25th 2024 at 7:48:42 PM

Cause Harley is more marketable than Lobo.

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#2504: Mar 25th 2024 at 7:51:55 PM

Granted, Lobo's a bit overpowered for the Suicide Squad. It's easy to forget due to his black comedy portrayals, but the Main Man's as powerful as Superman.

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#2505: Mar 25th 2024 at 7:58:17 PM

[up][up][up] Don't forget, Harley is also a very attractive lady, so that def adds into it.

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#2506: Mar 25th 2024 at 8:07:54 PM

Its solely because Harley is an attractive blonde woman so yeah pretty much entirely on sex appeal.

People do not have high standards here.

[up][up] Maybe don't shove him into the Suicide Squad and just have Lobo in a Lobo story. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 25th 2024 at 8:08:32 AM

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#2507: Mar 25th 2024 at 8:12:49 PM

There actually was an attempt to make a Lobo fighting game way back in the day. It didn't pan out, though it got as far as an unreleased prototype.

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#2508: Mar 25th 2024 at 8:14:28 PM

[up][up] On that note, I do feel her relationship with Ivy is more for eye-candy than to develop anything meaningful there.

Which makes Harley's interactions with kid Ivy worse.

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#2509: Mar 26th 2024 at 4:06:05 AM

Someone pointed out that Lobo would be a much better DC Deadpool then Harley. Which makes me think the only reason DC went with her is because she also wore a red and black costume.

Its so shallow a reasoning it might just be true.

Always seemed obvious to me, but is Lobo a Batman character? No.
DC can't make too many things focused on a character who isn't Batman adjacent.

TomWithoutJerry Since: Dec, 2023
#2510: Mar 26th 2024 at 7:47:07 AM

Lobo is not supposed to be sympathetic or relatable at all. Even Deadpool and Harley at her worst have traits you can sympathize with, but Lobo is fully unrepentant and his only two good traits are 'loves dolphins' and 'sticks to his given word'.

I love Lobo a lot but it takes a willigness to accept Refuge in Audacity to like him.

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#2511: Mar 26th 2024 at 7:51:01 AM

Guy fragged his own planet as a school science project and gave himself an "A". Made worse since the Czarnians were a peaceful people.

And it's played for (dark) laughs.

Edited by M84 on Mar 26th 2024 at 10:51:11 PM

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#2512: Mar 26th 2024 at 8:11:30 AM

So uh have we just given up discussing the actual game now?

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#2514: Mar 26th 2024 at 9:04:58 AM

Yeah we don't have much left to talk about unless you want to talk about Harley shooting Batman again, which the internet has done to death.

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#2515: Mar 26th 2024 at 9:22:35 AM

Well we do have the latest expansion coming out in a couple days.

We'll prolly hear some thoughts about how Joker is handled soon.

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#2516: Mar 26th 2024 at 3:21:10 PM

Whatever it is, I'm really hoping that it's not that this Joker is this 'troubled sympathetic' type who's not nearly as batshit insane as Joker normally is so that a possible Joker x Harley ship can happen.

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#2517: Mar 26th 2024 at 6:40:18 PM

I thought they threw that ship under the bus with Harley getting over Joker off screen.

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#2518: Mar 26th 2024 at 7:05:49 PM

They couldn't help themselves because Rocksteady simps harder for the Joker than Harley.

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#2519: Mar 28th 2024 at 5:24:53 PM

Alternate Joker was released on Suicide Squad today and the Player count went up!........

.....to only 3000 players.

That doesn't sound like a saved game to me. [lol]

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#2520: Mar 28th 2024 at 6:09:18 PM

So turns out Joker only unlocks if you finish the Season 1 campaign.

If want to play him already then you have to buy him upfront.

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#2522: Mar 28th 2024 at 7:04:09 PM

“The Joker can be unlocked as part of the story for season 1 by defeating Braniac. Or if you just can’t wait, you can get instant access to him in the store,” the notice says.

Okay that confirms that fully, we'll be fighting a Brainiac every season.

So the Brainiac myth arc here is most likely planned to go 13 seasons.

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#2523: Mar 28th 2024 at 8:15:39 PM

Organization XIII more like Brainiac XIII.

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#2524: Mar 28th 2024 at 8:16:07 PM

It's cute that they think they'll last 13 seasons.

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#2525: Mar 28th 2024 at 10:45:25 PM

Let's say that is does last all 13 seasons, how are they going to keep interest when it's going to be the same person they're fighting over and over again? Aside from whoever the next character they bring along to play as.


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