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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#2476: Mar 21st 2024 at 2:11:58 PM

WB is pulling out of the console market over Suicide Squad's failure.

Yeesh, WB always does this. They make a boneheaded bunch of decisions and then blame the medium, or the franchise, or whatever - anything but their own choices.

Their rationale is that the AAA market is needlessly volatile and risky, as if they made a perfectly good game and it tanked for no reason.

I’d almost believe it if they were saying this about Gotham Knights, since that game genuinely didn’t deserve the backlash it got (at least, not to that intensity), but there were just so many blatant signs with this one.

That behavior is one of the reasons the Looney Tunes franchise that up and went into a coma a couple decades ago, coming out of it in the 2010s.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
TheDarkMantis Shadow Bug from Ocean of Storms Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
Shadow Bug
#2477: Mar 21st 2024 at 2:14:26 PM

It's kinda like Google, who's abandoned so many apps, devices, and services over time when they weren't immediately successful that an entire site was made that catalogues the "Graveyard" of everything Google-related.

"That we continue to persist at all is a testament to our faith in one another."
Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#2478: Mar 21st 2024 at 4:22:06 PM

So Brainac is like Kang annoying to kill because there are numerous variants?

Edited by Mizerous on Mar 21st 2024 at 7:22:48 AM

Mileena Madness
Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
To be a Master
#2479: Mar 21st 2024 at 4:34:21 PM

Honestly, the game should have been Suicide Squad: Battle of the Multiverse. I think there would be a lot of goodwill of Task Force X going on an inter-dimensional secret mission to eliminate multiverse threats that the Justice League aren't aware of. With the first season being a brainwashed Justice League from another dimension. And the second being Joker world.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#2480: Mar 21st 2024 at 4:46:36 PM

[up][up] More like Doom in that he has a lot of decoys.

Wake me up at your own risk.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#2481: Mar 21st 2024 at 5:28:24 PM

They aren’t decoys but rather drones networked together. Every Brainiac is the real Brainiac.

Disgusted, but not surprised
AFan Since: Nov, 2022
#2482: Mar 21st 2024 at 9:35:43 PM

So if this was going to involve multiverses, why not just have the KTJL cast be in its own universe and have a section dedicated to the Suicide Squad stopping a Brainiac invasion in the Arkhamverse, with them making an uneasy alliance with Arkham Batman? Doesn't that sound like a cool idea?

Edited by AFan on Mar 21st 2024 at 11:35:51 AM

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#2483: Mar 21st 2024 at 10:29:57 PM

At least they can easily say that Arkham Batman that we all know isnt the same as the one here.

After a third Braniac, I think players left will finally realize that tehy have been in a grinding loop to get the same shit over again

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eirigfi I exist. Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#2484: Mar 22nd 2024 at 5:49:18 PM

[up] Nah I think many players have realized the grind fest already.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#2485: Mar 22nd 2024 at 9:27:55 PM

The latest trailer makes it clear the most substantial content is just new guns, which considering that all the guns just generally feel samey isn't much.

You can tell the development problems by how much new content is developed, and the latest expansion doesn't come with an original boss then you know the development here is absolutely fucked.

Which WB has already declared the game a failure anyway, so at this point its basically watching a terminal patient flat line. You know they are going to bite it, the only question is when.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#2486: Mar 23rd 2024 at 7:15:25 AM

I'm assuming this will be the ONLY season pass the game will get, given that they've rather formally given up on it

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#2487: Mar 23rd 2024 at 8:58:47 AM

No Katana to have my back. :(

Mileena Madness
GamerSlyRatchet Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#2488: Mar 23rd 2024 at 7:13:33 PM

I wonder if this Brainiac will ever come into play.

Latest blog update (November 5th, 2022).
AFan Since: Nov, 2022
#2489: Mar 23rd 2024 at 10:39:57 PM

That would probably require them to make an original boss fight, and they couldn't even do that for the base game's final boss fight!

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#2490: Mar 23rd 2024 at 10:44:58 PM

Development must have been hell.

They wasted the idea of a Brainiac with access to ALL of the League's powers.

(Except Wonder Woman.)

A twelfth level intellect CAN"T come up with more creative ways to use Flash's powers to reduce the Squad into paste?

Is he stupid?

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#2491: Mar 23rd 2024 at 10:50:53 PM

They couldn’t even give him new moves while as Flash. It’s basically the same exact boss fight with the only difference being the addition of mooks.

And Wonder Woman doesn’t get any sort of boss fight either. It’s incredible to think of all the development problems that must have occurred here.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#2492: Mar 23rd 2024 at 11:16:06 PM

I suspect it boils down to Rocksteady not wanting to make this game, WBD insisting they make this game, and Rocksteady just having no clue how to make a decent looter shooter.

Looter shooters just aren't their thing.

Disgusted, but not surprised
AFan Since: Nov, 2022
#2493: Mar 23rd 2024 at 11:19:34 PM

[up][up] Hell, if they really wanted to reuse the same boss fight, why not have Brainiac have multiple phases, one each on every member he had taken and brainwashed. It would still be lazy, but at least it would fit as a final boss fight.

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#2494: Mar 23rd 2024 at 11:23:54 PM

They presumably thought the 12th Brainiac would be the grand finale boss.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#2495: Mar 24th 2024 at 1:44:28 AM

[up][up][up] From the development we got we do know Rocksteady was developing a squad-based shooter, but it wasn't Suicide Squad it was an original IP and it only became Squad after inheriting the project from another studio.

So it is likely the looter shooter aspect was a mandate from WB considering how overall lackluster the loot is.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#2496: Mar 24th 2024 at 1:48:21 AM

Jason schrier brought up their wasn't a mandate to make it live service. What happened is Warner told them they'd give them even more money to make it if it was live service. No developor is going to pass that up

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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2497: Mar 24th 2024 at 2:33:44 AM

Talk about a Deal with the Devil.

It burned not just the people who accepted, but the people who offered. [lol]

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#2498: Mar 24th 2024 at 2:34:34 PM

"I think they do want her to be a female Deadpool"

Harley ALREADY is one, since new 52 her solo run was on the wacky corner of the DC universe. Hell in one part she find redtool, a clearly expy of wade.

while being loudmouth in general wade have a few thing: his regeneration allow him to take hilarious amount of punishment and him breaking the fourth wall is one of the reason he is insane since he know thing other dont in a way that be confuse with madness. but indeed Harley ust act like a chaotic neutral(and boy people hate chaotic neutral chararter) and call it a day.

Now in term of moral compass the premise already have issue.

Like one of the issue is squad are by nearly all metric scum, some of then can be funny or hilarious but yeah, Scum and pited them against the word finest? and what is surprising is aside of mind control aspect it actually play the whole thing stright "scumbag villian go and kill best hero" it is kinda ballsy and show why you dont do that.

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Smoker130 Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2499: Mar 25th 2024 at 3:29:07 PM

Harley ALREADY is one, since new 52 her solo run was on the wacky corner of the DC universe. Hell in one part she find redtool, a clearly expy of wade.

That's what I was alluding to. Not sure when or were it started, but many modern depiction of Harley, which is what the movies are using as a basis, that this game in turn is using as a basis, are trying to lean into the Deadpool-like wacky anti-hero aspect. But it's easy to not execute it well.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#2500: Mar 25th 2024 at 3:58:50 PM

Keep in mind Deadpool is a controversial character himself. Yes he has plenty of fans, but just as many people who dislike him because he's overexposed and they just don't plain don't find him funny.

It doesn't help Deadpool does have points where he's mishandled by writers who reduced him to shallow "Memepool" where he does nothing but make pop culture references with little depth or substance to his character.

All of which applies to Harley who suffers from the exact problems Wade has, with the added addition of glorifying her as morally superior. Deadpool has his issues but at least it feels like writers still keep him as a flawed character, while with Harley it honestly feels like we are supposed to consider her perfect and any flaws only serve to show how lovably immaculate she is.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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