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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#826: Sep 28th 2023 at 12:48:43 AM

from what I can tell Bitcoin needs round about 20000 times as much power as training Chat GPT-3 took.

...Well holy shit, I already heard about how energy-intensive it is but I didn't know it was to THAT degree.

Do you have sources for that? Because I'm going to start citing that figure in any conversation about bitcoin. [lol]

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#827: Sep 28th 2023 at 1:28:05 AM

Isn't that kind of the government's job? Why would Microsoft need to do this themselves? Or be allowed to, for that matter?

Wait, is it legal for companies to set up their own power generators?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#828: Sep 28th 2023 at 1:46:49 AM

Yes, it's perfectly legal with due diligence. Quite a few companies already generate their own power off the grid.

In some cases, they generate more than enough for their own use and thus sell the surplus to the power company.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#829: Sep 28th 2023 at 1:49:16 AM

Huh, interesting. Not sure if private companies building their own nuclear power plants is such a great idea, though.

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eagleoftheninth Cringe but free from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#830: Sep 28th 2023 at 1:58:48 AM

A lot of nuclear power plants around the world are already built and/or run by private corporations — Westinghouse, TEPCO and (formerly) Siemens come to mind. The Netherlands' sole commercial nuclear power plant at Borssele, Zeeland, is run by RWE AG, a Germany-based company.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#831: Sep 28th 2023 at 2:05:01 AM

Electricity in the US is typically handled by private entities, and it seems nuclear is no exception. For example, Constellation Energy owns the Braidwood Nuclear plant.

I don't think it's an intrinsically bad idea, so long as there's safety standards and inspections and such.

Edited by Protagonist506 on Sep 28th 2023 at 2:05:20 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#832: Sep 28th 2023 at 2:10:36 AM

Heck, one of the more iconic fictional nuclear power plants, the one from The Simpsons, is a privately owned business.

Edited by M84 on Sep 28th 2023 at 5:10:49 PM

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#834: Sep 28th 2023 at 3:39:13 AM

According to this, training ChatGPT-3 takes up to 10 GWh of power. The 200 TWh figure is from here.

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#835: Sep 28th 2023 at 3:41:39 AM

There's reports that the next water discharge from Fukushima is on October 5.

Brace for more protests from China/Korea/"concerned" activist groups/Japanese fishermen.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#836: Sep 28th 2023 at 3:42:45 AM

I guess you're right, I just never thought of power plants as privately owned.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#837: Sep 28th 2023 at 7:55:39 AM

@M84: That's not an argument for it being a good thing, of course.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#838: Sep 28th 2023 at 6:36:30 PM

Never said it was. The point is that privately owned nuclear plants have been a known thing for a long time.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#840: Oct 4th 2023 at 6:56:43 AM

Rolls-Royce builds reactors for British (and at some point down the line, Australian) nuclear submarines.

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#841: Oct 4th 2023 at 6:58:58 PM

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20231004/p2g/00m/0na/069000c

Malaysia already had seafood inspections way before the first water discharge from Fukushima before Ichiro Miyashita, the minister of agriculture, forestry and fisheries, served scallops during an event in Kuala Lumpur.

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#842: Oct 5th 2023 at 12:01:46 PM

Putin said today that Burevestnik has been succesfully tested.

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terumokou Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object from In a bamboo forest full of bunnies, California Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
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#844: Oct 5th 2023 at 1:07:37 PM

Basically a nuclear powered cruise missile.

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Smeagol17 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#845: Oct 5th 2023 at 1:09:43 PM

If true, it will make it the first nuclear-powered “aircraft”.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#846: Oct 17th 2023 at 7:41:10 PM

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2023/10/22e8535716af-iaea-team-joined-by-china-takes-samples-after-fukushima-water-release.html

An IAEA team is due to head to Fukushima to get water samples.

It'll include researchers from Canada, China and South Korea.

Beijing is still (not surprised) butthurt about this and called Japan to stom dumping the wastewater.

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#848: Oct 30th 2023 at 8:39:12 PM

American Embassy reports that they're officially buying the (Fukushima) seafood for American military facilities and American/expat personnel stationed within those places.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#849: Oct 30th 2023 at 8:42:18 PM

Honestly, there are already so many other things polluting the ocean that radiation isn't even in the top ten. If you're really worried about eating contaminated seafood, you should have stopped eating seafood a long time ago.

That or stick with farm-raised seafood.

I don't know about anyone else, but I am utterly sick of this bullshit nationalist posturing that's hiding behind radiophobia as an excuse to vent long pent up hostility against Japan.

Edited by M84 on Oct 30th 2023 at 11:43:41 PM

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#850: Oct 30th 2023 at 8:44:50 PM

I'm sure everyone else is, but considering them people in China (and Korea) aren't... although I'm seeing a slight rise of this "concern" in some Southeast Asia and Pacific Island countries.

Edited by Ominae on Oct 30th 2023 at 9:52:02 AM


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