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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1276: Apr 2nd 2024 at 6:40:58 PM

I don’t like Astral and her pro-Chugga group myself, since they’re too anti-Emily, and I think Emily’s point was that the negativity contributes to the harassment. The problem was that Emily, in pointing that out, inadvertently did the exact same thing to people who weren’t doing anything and didn’t acknowledge it at all.

Tim has also requested that Ant and Fushi be not harassed and instead left alone.

At this point, I’m on team “I want all the drama to end already”.

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Apr 2nd 2024 at 9:47:27 AM

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#1277: Apr 2nd 2024 at 6:56:06 PM

I feel like that's the stance most people should take. I know that's definitely mine.

It's been 3000 years…
Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#1278: Apr 2nd 2024 at 6:57:13 PM

It's good that Tim didn't join them in their Emily-bashing.

Astral's initial comparisons to Chugaa and other people who had bad things about them overstated or outright false (Spoctor Theory, Kwite, Pyrocynical, ProJared, DAGames, Vic Mignogna, etc.) is a valid comparison, though. All of them (and Emile) did awful things, but not nearly as bad as what was initially reported.

Edited by Smasher on Apr 2nd 2024 at 2:42:49 PM

MagmaTeaMerry My Head Is On Fire from A forest somewhere Since: Sep, 2020
My Head Is On Fire
#1279: Apr 2nd 2024 at 10:59:20 PM

Oh Christ, things really are getting worse before they get better, huh?

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MetalMichelangelo Since: Nov, 2012
#1280: Apr 3rd 2024 at 5:41:17 PM

Thought Fushi was AntDude's girlfriend, not his wife.


I too want this insanity to be done with.

Edited by MetalMichelangelo on Apr 3rd 2024 at 7:44:53 AM

MetalMichelangelo Since: Nov, 2012
#1281: Apr 7th 2024 at 11:10:10 AM

Since Masae doesn't want to associate with him anymore, should we remove any mention of them from each other's pages? Of course I ask this after adding a Masae entry to the Black and White Funny page.

RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#1282: Apr 7th 2024 at 11:12:58 AM

[up]I don't think so. Even if they don't associate anymore, erasure of the past isn't particularly tolerated here. It's why Values Dissonance exists.

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
Rabbitearsblog Movie and TV Goddess from United States Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Movie and TV Goddess
#1283: Apr 7th 2024 at 8:25:30 PM

[up] Isn't that more like Harsher in Hindsight ?

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#1284: Apr 16th 2024 at 12:50:47 PM

Chugga put out more info:

Google document for those who don't want to deal with the site formerly known as Twitter.

He and Masae were engaged privately and he thought they were still friends even after they broke up, and thats why the Splatoon 2 cameo happened.

Chugga did seek help after Emily told him he was wrong and he sent her shoes because they needed repair at first and then she mentioned her birthday.

Lawly: he was an idiot teenager doing memes.

Chugga now knows what major issues he has and it has helped him a lot. He also damns mental help phone sponsors because they didn't help him in 2021.

He's been a hous husband for his partner, but struggles with not writing down video idea.

He love everyone.

Chugga is unlikely to even start up videos again because of his health and is obviously not going to any events in the future. He's going to have to think about it.

Edited by tclittle on Apr 16th 2024 at 3:18:05 AM

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#1285: Apr 16th 2024 at 1:15:43 PM

They really were dating! I'm both surprised and not surprised.

Also, Jon is following Chugga on Twitter again!

Edited by Smasher on Apr 16th 2024 at 3:26:23 AM

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1286: Apr 16th 2024 at 1:25:11 PM

It starts off as explanations behind the events...and then takes a very harrowing turn towards the end. He was a victim of sexual assault as a child. The trauma from that has affected him all his life and may have played a role in his behavior in not only the incidents but in every single video he has done.

Speaking of which, Emile has no idea if he wants to go back to making videos. He's too traumatized by just about everything to know what direction his life should go now and if he will even enjoy his usual stuff.

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Apr 16th 2024 at 5:26:55 AM

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#1287: Apr 16th 2024 at 1:36:40 PM

...God. Uhhh. Wow. Learning about him and Masae actually being a couple is...bizarre. But that's all I think needs to be said on that. I'm glad they've both chosen to be mature and avoid association anymore.

It really, really does hurt knowing that this experience probably deprived Chugga of the joy of something he loved doing for all these years, so I can only hope that he learns to find that joy again some other way. But, if it turns out he never makes another video again...I can at least make peace knowing that he's trying to fix himself for the better.

Not a lot of people can find that strength in this day and age.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#1288: Apr 16th 2024 at 2:56:41 PM

....wow.

I was ready to give up Chugga for ever and never think of him.

Now I'm just kinda gonna miss him.

This was 100% not what I thought it was.

One Strip! One Strip!
Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#1289: Apr 16th 2024 at 5:34:43 PM
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Stage7-4 Since: Dec, 2014
#1290: Apr 16th 2024 at 6:06:03 PM

I don't know if Emile actually had to reveal that him and Masea were engaged, feels like that's violating her desire to keep it private.

But it is "their" relationship and not "her" relationship, so I guess Emile has a right to tell his story. I dunno, messy things are messy. I hope he gets the help he needs and ends up in a better place.

MetalMichelangelo Since: Nov, 2012
#1291: Apr 16th 2024 at 6:16:06 PM

This is quite depressing if I can even make anything out of it. He's honestly an asset to the video game community. I've always admired his work (maybe he was the first Let's Player I found so it shaped my expectations to some extent) despite cringing at some of his commentary in his older Let's Plays but I'll respect his decision.

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#1292: Apr 16th 2024 at 6:53:08 PM
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#1293: Apr 16th 2024 at 6:57:25 PM
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The Undercover Troper
#1295: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:00:20 PM

The part in the doc where Emile says he was a victim of SA as a kid, that puts a much darker spin on all of the jokes made about his innocence.

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
MagmaTeaMerry My Head Is On Fire from A forest somewhere Since: Sep, 2020
My Head Is On Fire
#1296: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:11:12 PM
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The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from In a deep dark hole Since: Dec, 2023 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#1297: Apr 16th 2024 at 11:19:57 PM

So hears my in a nutshell take on this: Emile did wrong but is getting help so that good, the Masae part sould have never come to light on both sides, the Lawly part was best left in the past internet age that is best left forgotten and that lady Emily is not to be trusted thanks to her actions on this shitshow.

After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. Let's give it EVERYTHING we've got! It's...PUNISHMENT TIME
MetalMichelangelo Since: Nov, 2012
#1298: Apr 16th 2024 at 11:42:50 PM
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The Pun Dragon
#1299: Apr 17th 2024 at 12:33:35 AM
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Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#1300: Apr 17th 2024 at 3:19:57 AM

As mentioned in previous mod posts (such as this one), the thread is primarily here to discuss Chugga's work, not the allegations.

And discussion about allegations keeps derailing into comment and speculation about people's personal lives, including comments taking sides and, most recently, suggestions that some of his accusers should face consequences.

That's not something that belongs on this thread, or something that we really want to host on the forums. On that basis, the thread is being locked indefinitely.

If and when there are new conversations to have about Chugga's work, please holler a mod and we'll consider an unlock.

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