Description for Miniscule Rocking

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MinisculeRocking

The page here is meant to be the opposite of epic rocking (which states in its description that songs must be at least 6 minutes in length to qualify). However, there is no stated standard for miniscule rocking and how short songs should be to qualify

What do you should be the standard for this trope?

I find that unless there's a problem (like shoehorning) with not having a hard limit, the trope definition works without one. Having a limit could potentially make people think that anything under it counts, rather than trying to figure out if the example can be defined as "unusually short" or not. That can also help with adding context, since it implicitly asks why that's unusually short.

I say the limit should be 2 minutes or less.

It explicitly says "either by normal standards or the band's standards". We may be able to define "normal standards", but that obviously may not apply to the band's standards.

Also, I think "normal" standards may change over time. For example, when Punk Rock took over from Arena Rock in the late seventies, the standard abruptly dropped by at least a couple of minutes. :)

I agree with the Duck: unless we're seeing an actual problem with the trope, I'd leave it as is.

I also vote against any sort of hard limit. They open the door to rules-lawyering and nitpicking. ~xtifr also makes a valid point: the "standard length" for pop music has changed several times; in the 50's, it was between 2:30 and 3:00 minutes. By the mid-70's it was just over 3 minutes (c.f. Billy Joel's "The Entertainer" — "...It was a beautiful song, but it ran too long, so they cut it down to 3:05.".

edited 2nd Dec '16 9:47:44 AM by Madrugada