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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#326: Jan 12th 2018 at 9:33:59 AM

Speaking of Molly, you know what really annoyed me? After all the talk about how much she likes to dance and how great she is dancing we never really saw her dance. One or two moves here and there, but those didn't even look in any way impressive.

Also if her eyes already glowed when she was a child, why did she have to go to puberty to reclaim the ability?

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#327: Jan 13th 2018 at 3:51:05 PM

Might be that the actress can't dance. Was dancing an important part of the character in the comics?

As for her power, it makes sense to me in the weird way that comic books normally do. She first used it in a life-threatening situation, right when she got the power in the first place. It's quite possible that over the next few years, she wasn't in any life-threatening situations at all. Then puberty happened, throwing her body out of wack and making her power activate even when she wasn't in danger.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#328: Jan 13th 2018 at 9:00:23 PM

Yeah while Molly isn't strictly a mutant in this iteration, puberty has always been a shorthand for mutant powers developing in the comics.

Along with the usual "can only use them when dramatically necessarily" thing. Like when Molly couldn't bend the crowbar but could stop the van from running her over.

Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#329: Jan 13th 2018 at 10:39:53 PM

According to her imdb bio Allegra Acosta does study dance. Which should make her at a minimum appropriately competent for a young teen with an interest, because, well, that is what she is. The control thing seems to entirely have been a "Figuring her powers out" thing - she has not had that issue since.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#330: Jan 14th 2018 at 12:14:55 AM

Honestly, I am less worried about what she can and can't do and more confused that after one season of her falling asleep immediately after using the power it barely seems to be an issue in the finale.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#331: Jan 14th 2018 at 1:58:16 AM

I think the comics eventually started ignoring the limits on Molly's powers as well. Guess we'll just chalk it up to her powers developing.

RavenWilder Raven Wilder Since: Apr, 2009
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#332: Jan 14th 2018 at 7:25:47 AM

Maybe she's just learned to eat lots of pasta beforehand.

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#333: Feb 4th 2018 at 2:16:38 AM

Do you think there'll be a crossover with the Cloak and Dagger show?

Heh heh, "Cloak and Dazzler"

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#334: Feb 4th 2018 at 5:38:23 AM

Well, they did meet up in the comics, but at the rate this show goes, they wouldn't be meeting up until well into the third season at the very earliest. tongue

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ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#335: Feb 24th 2018 at 6:58:04 AM

Season 2 to start filming in late April of this year[1]

GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#336: Mar 12th 2018 at 12:05:37 PM

Cloak and Dagger are at Freeform, and Runaways at Hulu. Can they crossover at all to begin with? So the references between TV series (not TV-Film ones) are either ABC-ABC or Netflix-Netflix

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#337: May 13th 2018 at 10:27:40 AM

Until they revealed that the thing in the hole was alive, I was thinking it was Jonah's spaceship under the assumption he's an alien

The Yorkes think it's a similar being to Jonah so... underground rainbow dragon?

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#339: Aug 18th 2018 at 5:32:51 AM

I admit, I am not particularly excited….

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#340: Aug 20th 2018 at 4:45:35 AM

I'm catching up on the series, now watching E8.

Honestly, if the effort was to make the PRIDE parents sympathetic? Then in my book that failed completely.

They are either complete assholes (Leslie, Catherine, Tina, Victor and to an extent Geoffrey), or just meek cowards. As far as I'm concerned, they can all go to hell.

Edited by Forenperser on Aug 20th 2018 at 1:51:28 PM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#341: Aug 20th 2018 at 5:33:17 AM

[up] THANK YOU!!! Exactly my sentiment. They are not likable at all, they are a bunch of f... selfish idiots.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#342: Aug 20th 2018 at 9:10:47 AM

I think they did a reasonably good job of making them sympathetic if not actually likable, but I still don't think they should have. The reason the first season dragged so much was because they spent so much time on the parents instead of the kids. It would have been more interesting if it was laser focused on the kids, with the parents being mysterious antagonists with unknowable motivations, and we see things completely from the kids' perspective as they try to figure out what's going on.

Basically, I think they should have taken some inspiration from the horror genre. Horror movies don't spend half their runtime showing things from the monster's perspective, and that makes the monster seem more dangerous.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#343: Aug 20th 2018 at 9:21:56 AM

Thing is the parents aren't horror monsters. And the book did kind of try to make the parents seem sympathetic.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#344: Aug 20th 2018 at 9:29:21 AM

Plenty of horror movies have made the monsters sympathetic while remaining a threat. The kids could have discovered that the parents were being threatened halfway through the season or whatever. My problem is that making the parents main characters just ate up too much screentime. Making them more background threats would have cut down on the redundancy of watching both sides trying to figure out what the other side is doing.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#345: Aug 20th 2018 at 10:23:13 AM

I dunno, The Pride had some of my favorite moments of the first season.

Gert's parents in particular were always fun.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#346: Aug 20th 2018 at 2:19:44 PM

I liked them, but it felt like they were going out of their way to write subplots for them. It felt like filler.

Ping_Pong_Along Since: May, 2017
#347: Aug 20th 2018 at 3:54:45 PM

I agree with most people about the parents. The show felt super unfocused because of them and how much screen time they got. I don't know whether or not I found them sympathetic. They didn't really leave much of an impression to me either way. As we saw more and more of them, we really go to see how dysfunctional they were. Some were incompetent, others abusive, but none of them came across as all that threatening or endearing. I liked some of the performances, but it never felt like it had a point.

While I don't think a strong villain is necessary (see Cloak and Dagger's first season), it would have really helped this show.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#348: Aug 21st 2018 at 12:29:14 AM

Cloak and Dagger focussed on the main characters and that really paid off, because I really cared for them and felt invested to what happened to them. In Runaways every time I managed to make a connection they did something which made me wonder if that is still the same character. And then there is the way they handled the romance.

It often felt as if the characters just changed the way they acted based on whatever the writers needed that moment.

Plus, the show looked cheap. I know it isn't easy to do complicated effects on a TV budget, but if you compare it with Cloak and Dagger, that one had so much more style just by the way the camera was used and the music was incorporated

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#349: Aug 21st 2018 at 12:32:41 AM

Why does everyone think characters can't react based on a given situation instead of being static?

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#350: Aug 21st 2018 at 12:40:52 AM

[up][up] I actually liked the romance more than I expected to. Well, for the kids. Chase and Katerina dance around each other until Katerina accepts that she's gay, and even though they don't talk about it, Chase figures it out and backs off. Would have liked a bit more of Chase's feelings for Gert before they hooked up (we got plenty of Gert's feelings for Chase, but not the other way around), but it wasn't that bad. Nico, likewise, could have used a bit of exploration of her bisexuality more.

So I guess I do agree with you, in the end. The romances could have been better, and would have been better with more character focus like Cloak & Dagger (2018). I'm just used to the CW shows, which basically pair up characters at random and insist that they are the One True Loves who will be together forever.


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