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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#226: Oct 13th 2016 at 7:29:51 AM

The death of King Bhumibol Adulyadej has removed one of the few remaining points of unity in Thailand. Expect the next wave of unrest (among the many since 2010) to be harsher than before.

edited 13th Oct '16 7:30:01 AM by FFShinra

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#227: Oct 13th 2016 at 2:49:15 PM

[up][up] And even then, the US is only really still considered a superpower because they have the current strongest military (Though that's mostly because of their vehicles more than the troops themselves. The troops themselves do have some rather outdated equipment and a number of misfits) and economy. They are backwards in a lot of ways compared to other 1st World countries.

edited 13th Oct '16 2:54:31 PM by Bat178

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#228: Oct 13th 2016 at 5:16:31 PM

[up] Being a military super-power and an economic super-power are generally the two ways for a nation to be a super-power. It sounds like you're saying "They're only still a super-power because they're a super power"

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#229: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:00:49 PM

If the US aren't a super-power, then nobody in the world is one, which is just plain silly. By default, the most powerful country in the world at any given time is its major super-power.

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#230: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:10:46 PM

One can have a world without superpowers, I wouldn't agree that the US is no longer one (I'd say it's a far less powerful one than it was strait after the fall of Communism, but that's not the same), but it's entirely possible to have a world without any superpowers, simply a number of major/world powers.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#231: Oct 14th 2016 at 5:10:24 PM

But superpower is a relative term, as long as we are talking about a sociopolitic context instead of a comicbook one. By default, the most powerful countries on Earth are superpowers compared to the rest of them.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#232: Oct 14th 2016 at 6:27:52 PM

Superpower isn't just about being more powerful, but being more powerful by a large enough margin that most other countries will either cozy up with them, or find a different superpower to back them instead.

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FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#233: Oct 14th 2016 at 7:04:32 PM

By that definition, the US is no longer a super power. It's a small buffet out there for the small fries on who to ask to back them.

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#234: Oct 15th 2016 at 1:14:46 AM

I don't agree that superpower is just a term for the most powerful nations on earth, otherwise we'd still have two superpowers as one would have replaced the USSR, after all, someone else did take the number two spot after the fall of the USSR.

Superpower is a relative term in that the power requirement to be a superpower is determined relatively, but that doesn't mean a hard requirement doesn't exist.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#235: Oct 15th 2016 at 1:19:11 AM

[up] China has pretty much replaced the USSR as the next rival Superpower to the US.

edited 15th Oct '16 1:21:09 AM by Bat178

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#236: Oct 15th 2016 at 1:45:40 AM

[up] At least until their housing bubble finally bursts. Which won't be good news for anyone.

Bad enough that the U.S. also has a looming auto industry bubble.

edited 15th Oct '16 1:46:43 AM by M84

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#237: Oct 15th 2016 at 1:53:59 AM

[up] I'm not American, but what auto industry bubble?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#238: Oct 15th 2016 at 1:56:17 AM

I'd explain it, but I think I'll leave that to John Oliver. He's got a better way with words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U2eDJnwz_s&list=PLmKbqjSZR8TbfAMV9bLy4beDh4vrze5kc

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#239: Oct 15th 2016 at 2:52:45 AM

That's not an auto-industry bubble, that's an auto-lending bubble, there's nothing wrong with the US auto-manufacturing industry, just a ton wrong with the auto-sales industry.

edited 15th Oct '16 3:45:17 AM by Silasw

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#240: Oct 15th 2016 at 3:31:52 AM

[up][up] I don't watch You Tube videos as a rule. But , like [up] said, it's a lending bubble? I assumed you were referring to an auto manufacturing bubble, of which I couldn't see much sign.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#241: Oct 15th 2016 at 6:12:33 AM

Right, sorry about that. It's a lending issue.

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#242: Oct 15th 2016 at 11:43:42 AM

I've read about the ghost cities of China, these big modern urban areas China has constructed in which hardly anybody lives as few can afford it and there aren't a lot of jobs available.

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#243: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:41:22 PM

Yup "ghost cities". Nothing ominous about that at all.

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Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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#244: Oct 15th 2016 at 12:44:58 PM

They're not really ominous, just the result of a really stupid move. Building infrastructure is great, but you should probably build it where people actually are and want to live.

Not Three Laws compliant.
PotatoesRock Since: Oct, 2012
#245: Oct 15th 2016 at 2:15:51 PM

Aren't a lot of those used as real estate hedge bets since Chinese citizens on average trust Real Estate value but distrust their stock market?

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#247: Oct 15th 2016 at 3:20:23 PM

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be ominous. Where I'm from, a "ghost town" is just an abandoned town. Usually what's left of mining or company towns (after the mine closed and the company left), or towns that sprung up around the railroad (after the railroad closed a line, or moved it).

I've heard stories from the turn of the 20th century about planned urban expansions that never panned out in the US. Chicago, for instance, paved a road into an undeveloped woods, even built streetlights along it, and then nothing else got built there for years. Imagine how surreal that'd be to come across.

edited 15th Oct '16 3:23:22 PM by Robbery

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#248: Oct 15th 2016 at 4:08:46 PM

[up][up][up] You can also blame the "good old eastern inferiority complex against the west (i.e. America because all westerners are Americans for us.)" for that one. China is so obsessed with proving their superiority over the west that they count building infrastructure and real estate as GDP, not selling them. Just building the damn thing is enough apparently. Instant profit FTW!!!

There is also their issue with their excessive industrial capacity that is bad enough to cause oversupply.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#249: Oct 15th 2016 at 5:17:45 PM

By that definition, the US is no longer a super power. It's a small buffet out there for the small fries on who to ask to back them.

I'm sure the USA and the other superpowers are still eating more of the smaller countries than the other way around. Saying otherwise is a Trumpism.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#250: Oct 15th 2016 at 5:41:42 PM

[up] You mean other superpower, as in China. France and the UK aren't superpowers anymore (Though they are still world powers, which are a step below superpowers), and although Russia has been rebuilding their strength in recent years, they still aren't quite a superpower again yet.

edited 15th Oct '16 5:43:49 PM by Bat178


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