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32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#2776: Aug 25th 2016 at 6:27:05 PM

Oooooh! Prisma event. I hope it's like the Summer Event and takes ages. I need time to stock up on Quartz.

"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#2777: Aug 26th 2016 at 3:16:45 AM

Incidentally, Artoria's final ascencion dialogue implies that she and Gudao/ko spend a lot of time along, in their room, and the image is of Artoria, in her swimsuit on a bed.

Now we know that nothing happened because Gudao is a perfect gentleman... but Riyo has taught me that Gudako is an unstoppable force. Artoria just probably resigned herself to it, make it easier and quicker. 'sides, she kinda looks like Shirou and that makes it okay.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#2778: Aug 26th 2016 at 3:47:03 AM

My favorite line is her first Ascension line : "It's easier to move around than before. Now I won't lose, not even to a whale!"

edited 26th Aug '16 3:48:00 AM by 32ndfreeze

"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#2779: Aug 26th 2016 at 4:18:27 AM

Hey, where do you get red spears for Scathach's upgrade?

MarquisDev LOVE WINS from somewhere in the West Since: Aug, 2011
LOVE WINS
#2780: Aug 26th 2016 at 6:01:58 AM

[up] Quest rewards. One in Scathach's brilliant summer quest, and the other three in post event quests

"If music be the food of love, PLAY ON" - William Shakespeare
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#2781: Aug 26th 2016 at 6:18:54 AM

Found them. Well, she permanent now. Nothing to do but farm for mats,since I don't intend to get all the prisms anymore.

TheCuriousFan Since: Jan, 2011
#2782: Aug 26th 2016 at 3:56:28 PM

Incidentally, Artoria's final ascencion dialogue implies that she and Gudao/ko spend a lot of time along, in their room, and the image is of Artoria, in her swimsuit on a bed. Now we know that nothing happened because Gudao is a perfect gentleman...
>gentleman

>tells Martha to her face that he wants to drink her "holy water".

Sure.

edited 26th Aug '16 3:56:37 PM by TheCuriousFan

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#2783: Aug 26th 2016 at 4:34:48 PM

What a perv

Aren't they supposed to be an insert character? What if I have no desire for Martha's holy water? Sexual preferences aside, I don't really want to spend time with someone who abuses her pets.

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doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#2784: Aug 26th 2016 at 5:00:55 PM

How many grails do each * level use to reach level 100?

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#2785: Aug 26th 2016 at 5:06:17 PM

If your current level cap is 60, you get 10 levels for the first grail. From 65-90 you use one grail for every five levels. For 90-100 you use one grail for every two levels.

So 1-2 stars use ten total, a three star uses nine, a four star uses seven and a five star uses five.

Edit: Oh, and barring a few exceptions like Saber Alter compared to Saber or Lancer Alter compared to Lancer Artoria, higher star level still means higher stats at 100.

edited 26th Aug '16 5:09:02 PM by Arha

TheCuriousFan Since: Jan, 2011
#2786: Aug 26th 2016 at 5:17:16 PM

In short, it's better to spread your grails around and get a few to 90 rather than one to 100 unless you really like them or they're really broken (e.g. Saber Lancelot or Jeanne Alter).

EDIT:

What a perv Aren't they supposed to be an insert character? What if I have no desire for Martha's holy water?
Then you don't pick that dialogue option.

edited 26th Aug '16 5:18:33 PM by TheCuriousFan

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#2787: Aug 26th 2016 at 6:05:44 PM

Thanks. Been thinking of maybe using my Grails on Martha since 1) her Ruler version is one of my favorites right now 2) She actually seems pretty good offensively.

Unrelated to that I'm seven quartz away from another ten roll. I'll probably uses some apples to get the rest from Camelot while I try and decide which gacha to roll. I'd be happy getting either Arturia or Tamamo but I also wouldn't mind getting Kiyohime or another Martha.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#2788: Aug 26th 2016 at 6:12:54 PM

Martha's max stats at 100 with full Fous are 14630/12548.

I finally got Cu Alter to 94 myself and can get him to 96 by the end of the event. I think only Jeanne Alter has a higher attack at that level. So damn expensive though.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#2789: Aug 26th 2016 at 6:14:26 PM

Berserker Thor in the Prillya collab, maybe?
Hope so. The whole Class Card system means basically everyone who fights is a dirty counterfeiting faker aping the powers of their betters, so they might as well include the couple actual Servanty people Prisma added.

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#2790: Aug 26th 2016 at 6:17:37 PM

How does that compare to most five stars? I don't really know how that compares to anything outside of my team, I remember reading that out of 4*s she has the highest attack excluding Berserkers.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#2791: Aug 26th 2016 at 6:22:49 PM

In comparison, Cu Alter is 14367/15009 and Jeanne Alter is 13875/15488. More helpfully, fellow SR Beowulf is 13511/13397 and Saber Alter, one of the best SRs and actually better than normal Saber, is 15041/13398.

Apart from her third skill I'm not particularly impressed unless they start releasing a bunch of beach maps. So far as I can tell, her beach attack buff doesn't have a duration on it.

Edit: For a few more examples of SSR Servants at 100, Jeanne is 19066/11491 and Xuan is 15194/13751. Also, you can look them up here if you can read Chinese or don't mind a little guesswork about who you're looking up.

edited 26th Aug '16 6:25:05 PM by Arha

Xatu44 Since: Jul, 2013
#2792: Aug 26th 2016 at 6:26:46 PM

Oh hey, better dressed lolis than Jack inbound. Right after I leveled my Nursery Rhyme too... ah well.

Here's to hoping for an Angelica CE, or if I really feel like deluding myself, SSR Angelica and Shirou.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#2793: Aug 26th 2016 at 6:45:42 PM

@TCF

I'm talking about frequent fanon depictions. Gudao is usually a 'nice guy', especially when paired with Jeanne Alter in fanart and the like, while Gudako, probably thanks to Riyo, is frequently portrayed as an unstoppable force of evil and molestation.

@Arha

Keep in mind that Martha's effective HP is much higher since she halves incoming damage from all but three classes, only two of which are ever enemies, and neither of which are super common. Hell, Avenger is super uncommon as an enemy.

Martha is not amazing, but she's not bad by any means.

And when it comes down to it, grailing a servant is not about how strong they are, but how high the Waifu or Husbando factor is. Me, well, I grailed Jackie because I'm a good mommy. And I needed to reward her because she's been tearing enemies apart ever since I first rolled her (since she was even useful back before I could ascend her, since, you know, she doesn't need level 90 to generate bazillions of stars).

edited 26th Aug '16 6:49:00 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#2794: Aug 26th 2016 at 7:03:09 PM

Yeah but he was talking offense. Ruler gets a decent class modifier but has no type advantages against anyone but Berserkers, so I picked offensive Servants + Jeanne as a comparison.

I'm ascending Cu Alter because he's good. I'm considering ascending Xuan simply because I like her. If I do that I won't be able to ascend Mordred or Okita if I get them, though. Though I think I only have nine grails right now anyway, minus the ones I already used.

Classifiedzerogoki from Canada Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#2795: Aug 26th 2016 at 7:09:09 PM

I'm going to grail ascend Karna eventually.

I grail ascended Vlad because he deserved it for being my first SSR. I literally didn't roll for Kintoki and Cu Alter at all because I wanted to roll him.

"Strategy? Spacing? I just keep punching until I hit something." - Sol Badguy
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#2796: Aug 26th 2016 at 7:43:40 PM

Even if she is not amazing at offense, she's still very decent and generally better than most other neutral class choices. Her Berserker deck is very useful even if it's only to set up Buster chains.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#2797: Aug 26th 2016 at 7:48:00 PM

I was going to ascend Karna eventually, but now I might go with Archer Arturia instead.

Her NP spam is so much fun. Especially since I got a copy of Divine Banquet 2-3 rolls before her.

"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
Classifiedzerogoki from Canada Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#2798: Aug 27th 2016 at 1:33:33 AM

Has anyone here gotten a bond level to level 10 of any Servants yet?

"Strategy? Spacing? I just keep punching until I hit something." - Sol Badguy
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#2799: Aug 27th 2016 at 1:52:53 AM

Liz would probably be at ten now if this event let me keep her in my party all the time. She's pretty close.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#2800: Aug 27th 2016 at 7:36:43 AM

I think I don't even have a single servant at Bond 7. Several are pretty close tho.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

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