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Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
#1: Apr 20th 2016 at 9:20:17 AM

I know it's a very famous character in a very famous movie but still... nothing indicates in the image that the dude is a former villain and that he's about to die. Even the caption is without context.

edited 20th Apr '16 9:21:50 AM by Silverblade2

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#2: Apr 20th 2016 at 9:44:13 AM

Strong Keep Until Better Image Suggested. It's technically JAFAAC but if you don't get the context of this you've been living under a rock for the last...most of my life. Ugh.

edited 20th Apr '16 9:44:23 AM by Willbyr

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#3: Apr 20th 2016 at 9:47:22 AM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

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#4: Apr 20th 2016 at 9:48:17 AM

Keep.

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#5: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:33:09 AM

Star Wars gets a pass. Keep Until Much Better Image Suggested.

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#6: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:37:07 AM

Definite keep.

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#7: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:56:25 AM

I'm going to go ahead and say this is in fact better than JAFAAC. Even ignoring Fan Myopia, we have Guy in Black Armor, looking like he's dying, with a surprisingly caring look on his face.

Without context, the image itself could work just as well for Death Equals Redemption, but it does visibly depict "Someone formerly evil, now not so much, who is dying."

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#8: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:05:11 AM

Yeah, keep.

(Annoyed grunt)
DeisTheAlcano Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#9: Apr 20th 2016 at 6:00:29 PM

I will say that this image is better than not having a picture but not because it's from Star Wars (I think we agreed to check the policy regarding JAFAAC and the franchise) but because of all the reasons Larkman pointed out[up][up]. It's still weak, though.

edited 20th Apr '16 6:01:03 PM by DeisTheAlcano

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:07:35 PM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested, for reasons already started.

I remember a few years back we actually had a list of "JAFAAC character exceptions" for characters who are so ingrained in the public consciousness that we can reasonably expect most people to be familiar with it through osmosis. If I remember, the list was basically "Jesus, Darth Vader, and Harry Potter".

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DeisTheAlcano Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#11: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:25:00 PM

[up]It's funny but Jesus is used as an example of JAFAAC in Just a Face and a Caption. I don't think we should give any character or series a free pass, we don't do that with examples so I don't see why images (which, above all else, should picture the trope) should be any different.

edited 20th Apr '16 8:33:13 PM by DeisTheAlcano

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#12: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:28:02 PM

I think Superman, Super Mario, and Super Mickey Mouse have also been declared as such.

Anyway, I'm not sure Vader would count outside his full mask, since that's how he famously looks. On the other hand, the image is vaguely illustrating the trope, so I'll still go with Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

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#13: Apr 21st 2016 at 7:29:05 AM

I'll give this another day or two to see if another suggestion comes up.

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#14: Apr 21st 2016 at 8:04:51 AM

Bandwagoning and saying Keep until a really amazing image suggestion.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#15: Apr 21st 2016 at 2:41:25 PM

Well, it wasn't so much "Jesus can always be used without being JAFAAC" so much as "Jesus is a character that we can assume people will be familiar with". But yeah, if at all possible we should avoid that anyway.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#16: Apr 21st 2016 at 2:41:25 PM

Well, it wasn't so much "Jesus can always be used without being JAFAAC" so much as "Jesus is a character that we can assume people will be familiar with". But yeah, if at all possible we should avoid that anyway.

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Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I know
#17: Apr 21st 2016 at 3:04:38 PM

My bad. I didn't know Darth Vader had been declared as an exception.

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#18: Apr 21st 2016 at 4:30:01 PM

No trouble. I'll go ahead and close this.

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