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Deadlock Clock: May 6th 2016 at 11:59:00 PM
Josef5678 Psshhh... from Virginia Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Mu
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#1: Apr 16th 2016 at 5:34:01 PM

The image is simply a Troy poster with no context to illustrate the trope, and the caption doesn't help at all. To add insult to injury, Helen isn't even a straight example, so this image should be removed regardless of replacement.

edited 16th Apr '16 5:40:05 PM by Josef5678

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#2: Apr 18th 2016 at 6:44:31 AM

A bit on the JAFAAC side, to be sure...no ideas on a replacement right now.

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#3: Apr 18th 2016 at 10:41:54 AM

Can't think of anything that wouldn't be JAFAAC.

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#4: Apr 18th 2016 at 11:17:07 AM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested

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#5: Apr 18th 2016 at 1:19:52 PM

I think removing an image on the basis of being a Subverted Example is only a legitimate criticism if that is actually apparent from the image. I would like something better, but Helen of Troy is at least a major mythological figure known for being the progenitor of a war, on par with Narcissus being known for loving himself and Hercules for his strength and heroism. A strong Keep Until Better Image Suggested for me.

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Josef5678 Psshhh... from Virginia Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Mu
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#6: Apr 18th 2016 at 4:44:38 PM

Just because someone is important to mythology doesn't mean they are immune from being Just a Face and a Caption. If anything, the more well-known a figure is, the more likely it is to be confusing if they aren't a straight example, whether they have JAFAAC immunity or not. Besides, using a film adaptation may not be the best illustration for mythological figures in general, as their appearances are often completely different between certain works.

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#7: Apr 18th 2016 at 5:04:08 PM

Pull regardless of replacement.

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#8: Apr 19th 2016 at 12:22:35 AM

^^ You're arguing we should pull this without replacement when, as established, it does provide some context to the majority of people who at least know who Helen of Troy is (it's not just a random picture of a lady, it even says her name) and has the potential for confusion (because it's a subversion, which is not indicated by the image) for the minority who've seen the film. A good example does not necessarily make a good illustration, and vice versa. Why not find a replacement to make your case for removal stronger?

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#9: Apr 19th 2016 at 1:23:47 AM

Very weak Keep Until Better Image Suggested. She's a famous enough figure that it's not a complete JAFAAC (people tend to learn who she is via school even if they don't remember the specifcs of the myth), but it's still a barely passable image due to the reliance on text and said text having shoddy visibility.

edited 19th Apr '16 1:26:42 AM by Karxrida

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#10: Apr 19th 2016 at 7:01:34 AM

I'd like to see a replacement rather than pulling.

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#12: May 7th 2016 at 6:27:28 AM

Clock expired with no progress, so closing.

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