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YasminPerry Since: May, 2015
#1: Mar 4th 2016 at 3:01:43 PM

The homophobia index seems to have a few tropes that don't really belong there, like Homoerotic Subtext & Gayngst. Maybe those should be removed...?

edited 4th Mar '16 3:02:01 PM by YasminPerry

DAN004 Chair Man from The 0th Dimension Since: Aug, 2010
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#2: Mar 5th 2016 at 10:24:53 PM

Explain why they don't fit.

For Gay Ngst at least, it's often a side effect of homophobia.

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YasminPerry Since: May, 2015
#3: Mar 6th 2016 at 5:39:44 PM

Homoerotic Subtext isn't necessarily homophobic; in a lot of cases, it's to add a gay element to a story without having it be the center of the story. So I think that particular trope should be removed from the index.

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#4: Mar 8th 2016 at 5:56:11 PM

I think the logic behind its inclusion was that Homoerotic Subtext can be the *only* way to get anything even vaguely gay past the studios and audiences where they aren't willing to have non-straights in mainstream media. Therefore, it is a result of creator/audience homophobia, not necessarily a representation of homophobia. Does that make sense?

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#5: Mar 8th 2016 at 8:36:38 PM

It's an index, not a supertrope. All examples of the tropes don't have to fit the index. It's enough if there's any kind of tendency for them to fit.

That one I'm a little unsure if it fits, though. I can see it go either way.

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HeraldAlberich from Ohio (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#6: Mar 9th 2016 at 12:00:06 AM

Given [up], I think [up][up] makes a good argument for leaving it in, then.

Gideoncrawle Elder statesman from Put out to pasture Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#7: Mar 18th 2016 at 9:55:44 AM

Frankly, the entire Homophobia index looks dubious. It's basically the Queer as Tropes index with different organization and a side of soapboxing.

Bigotry in the name of inclusion is still bigotry.
DAN004 Chair Man from The 0th Dimension Since: Aug, 2010
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#8: Mar 18th 2016 at 10:00:57 AM

^ more like the index shows how the idea of homophobia affected certain tropes. There are also non-lgbt tropes there.

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