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HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#1: Jan 21st 2016 at 6:34:49 AM

The N-Word Privileges page required a major cleaning-up a while back to remove misuse by people who were using it just to mean, "Someone used the N-Word" as opposed to what it actually means, which is "there is a standard at play in which a slur is acceptable only when said by someone within the group the slur targets or is otherwise granted special dispensation by that group," (e.g. "black people can say nigger without causing offense but white people usually cannot"). For examples, just check the page source; most of the misuse is still there commented out in case there's further context that would make them valid examples.

Anyway, misuse still crops up from time to time and needs to be cleaned up, and it occurs to me that part of the problem is that the page image is itself Not An Example; it just has a character using the (asterisked-out) word "nigga" and then acting shocked. It's funny, largely thanks to the art (and the fact that they're squirrels), but it doesn't illustrate the trope.

I tried to find a better image; my Google Image Searching mostly turned up memes and/or Just a Face and a Caption (as well as some truly horrifying racism; googler beware).

About the best I found was this, from an article attempting to answer the age-old "but how come they can say it and I can't?" question. With the proper caption (something like, "from inside to outside, most acceptable to least acceptable") it might work. I'd be open to better options if anyone can find one.

Even if we can't, though, I'm of the opinion that nothing at all would be better than the misleading one that's up now.

edited 21st Jan '16 6:35:17 AM by HighCrate

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#2: Jan 22nd 2016 at 3:16:35 PM

I'm going ahead and opening this one. I found two strips from Sinfest that we can use to cover this better than the current. 1, 2

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#3: Jan 22nd 2016 at 4:52:09 PM

Something like frames 2+4 of the first and 1 of the second?

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#4: Jan 22nd 2016 at 5:29:12 PM

[up] That sounds like it can work. [tup]

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#5: Jan 22nd 2016 at 6:26:13 PM

Would look something like this...

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#7: Jan 22nd 2016 at 8:36:04 PM

Yeah, #5 perfectly illustrates this trope. [tup]

edited 22nd Jan '16 8:36:20 PM by Komodin

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#8: Jan 23rd 2016 at 12:12:37 AM

5 is good. [tup]

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#9: Jan 23rd 2016 at 1:16:30 AM

I don't think the image illustrates much at all, it's mostly speech bubbles. It's okay, though.

edited 25th Jan '16 9:56:32 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#10: Jan 23rd 2016 at 1:48:12 AM

It's a dialogue-rated trope, it's kind of necessary.

I had a caption suggestion here, but it was pulled for being bad.

edited 23rd Jan '16 1:50:17 AM by Karxrida

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#11: Jan 23rd 2016 at 1:49:17 AM

5 works.

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#12: Jan 23rd 2016 at 10:46:03 AM

5 seems good to me.

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#13: Jan 23rd 2016 at 4:01:49 PM

I realize it's partly necessary, but I strenuously object to using the word "illustrate" to describe merely talking about a phenomenon.

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#14: Jan 23rd 2016 at 4:36:27 PM

[up] A depiction, then. We see the trope in action and that's what counts; everything else is semantics.

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#15: Jan 25th 2016 at 7:04:36 AM

Bump; any other thoughts?

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#16: Jan 25th 2016 at 9:17:57 AM

For the record, I think the fact that the offended party is visibly a pig adds something to the image that wouldn't be there if it were just a quote. It's not much, but it's something.

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#17: Jan 26th 2016 at 1:16:31 PM

I support 5. It's a dialogue trope, so the use of speech balloons are fine. If it were just a quote, then for anyone else knows, the two parties would both be human.

edited 26th Jan '16 1:18:02 PM by Josef5678

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#18: Jan 26th 2016 at 1:57:23 PM

Good enough; 5 is up and tagged. Caption?

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#20: Jan 29th 2016 at 6:19:58 AM

No consensus on a caption; locking up.

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