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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#51: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:48:44 PM

Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core, X-2, XIII-2 and Lighting Returns, etc.

Basically all the main series connected spin-offs.

Oh ans XI and XIV because those are MM Os.

edited 18th Jan '16 4:49:56 PM by VeryMelon

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#52: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:50:07 PM

I mean, there's usually a point in any franchise where quality goes really down and people say "never happened" (ex: Star Wars prequels, Highlander 2, sequels to The Matrix, certain seasons of Doctor Who, etc.).

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#53: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:51:19 PM

I mean, more people have nice things to say about Crisis Core, X-2, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns than Dirge of Cerberus.

I don't think Dirge of Cerberus has any "defenders" per se.

It's pretty universally reviled.

And I keep hearing XIV is pretty good if you like mmos.

edited 18th Jan '16 4:57:07 PM by unnoun

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#54: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:51:56 PM

I remember liking Dirge of Cerberus. Can't recall why, though. I haven't played it in a long time.

edited 18th Jan '16 4:52:03 PM by TobiasDrake

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#55: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:52:48 PM

Why is VII so much more well-known and popular than the others?

I'd say it was the combination of it being the first Final Fantasy with cinematic and Sony marketing the hell out of the game since it was the first Final Fantasy released on their console.

So are there ANY FF games after VII that people like?

Plenty. Final Fantasy has a massive Unpleasable Fanbase just like Sonic and The Legend of Zelda, so you should only take the "Final Fantasy stopped being good after ______" with a grain of salt.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#56: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:53:35 PM

I mean.

...As bland shooters go it's alright I guess?

The shooting still isn't great and the story. Um.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:53:43 PM

The Final Fantasty X novel sequel also get Fanon Discontinuity.

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#58: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:54:44 PM

Even with the Sonic fanbase, they all despise some games more than others (SONIC '06 CAN ROT IN HELL).

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#59: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:55:12 PM

Yeah nobody likes that novel.

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#60: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:57:31 PM

[up][up]Outside of spinoffs, the games that fanbase in general have soured on was XIII. But even then, I tend to see less legitimate criticisms against the games themselves and more on the decisions the Square has made.

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#61: Jan 18th 2016 at 4:57:59 PM

I wasn't even aware a novel exists.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#62: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:01:50 PM

I've only heard of what's in it.

It sounds dumb.

I mean.

I feel like XIII's detractors will go away once XV comes out.

People used to hate XII as much. And X. And VIII.

I honestly haven't heard of IX getting any hate because it seemed like it was the one everyone sorta just forgets about? Like, people dropped the series after VIII and came back for X only because it got a lot of advertising

I can't imagine IX getting negative attention because that would require it getting any attention at all.

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#63: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:02:23 PM

It's called Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~. It features Tidus killing himself by kicking a Blitzball that looked like a bomb, Sin coming back, and Auron's long lost daughter showing up to create a new team to fight it.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#64: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:03:02 PM

I said it was dumb didn't I?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#65: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:03:31 PM

I was posting while you made yours.

And yes, it's very dumb.

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#66: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:04:36 PM

I heard the creator of Final Fantasy thought IX was the best, apparently.

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#67: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:05:09 PM

I honestly haven't heard of IX getting any hate because it seemed like it was the one everyone sorta just forgets about? Like, people dropped the series after VIII and came back for X only because it got a lot of advertising

IX gets the "Majora's Mask" treatment from the fanbase where everyone claims it's the most underrated game. tongue

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#68: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:05:24 PM

That sounds like someone wrote a novel that was absolutely brilliant and changed everything. A novel that could have altered the direction of the franchise forever. A novel that may have resulted in a new golden age of gaming.

Naturally, the publisher was so taken aback by the majesty of this piece of literature that he got confused and accidentally published someone's fanfic instead.

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#69: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:06:38 PM

Sorry for derailing the thread with my ignorance.

Again.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#70: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:06:52 PM

That's insulting to fanfic.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#71: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:07:03 PM

[up][up]It's fine.

edited 18th Jan '16 5:07:22 PM by VeryMelon

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#72: Jan 18th 2016 at 5:16:21 PM

Actually.

On-topic, Square did a lot of paid promotional stuff for the update of XIV that fixed it, and TFS did some videos for it.

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#74: Jan 18th 2016 at 7:45:23 PM

I actually tried out the free trial once TFS posted those videos and I can vouch for the game being realy fun. It's surprising how well an MMORPG can control with a traditional controller.

As for Final Fantasy, I liked VII but I think VIII is better. I also liked X and V. Despite this, I have never beaten a Final Fantasy game.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#75: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:15:03 PM

Yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about XIV too. The main problem is I have no job to support it right now, and the game's Mac version is royally screwed and I have no Windows computer.


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