Box Office Thread

He’s about to have three movies.

Tom Cruise has a career going back decades with a long term franchise revolving around him and several other popular and successful movies throughout. Three movies in a short period of time isn't anything like Tom Cruise. He's Hollywood royalty at this point.

Chalamet averages about two movies a year (for the last ten years), and had an Oscar nom under his belt before he was 23. He's more of a prestige actor than Cruise is (or rather, than Cruise has been in a while).

It is, however, still a silly comparison to make. There has been chatter about who would be "the next Tom Cruise" for around three decades now, and the answer is pretty much...Tom Cruise.

Edited by ArthurEld on Feb 26th 2024 at 8:16:02 AM

The nature of celebrity has changed so much in the past decade that there will be no "next Tom Cruise" out there. He's the last true movie star in the traditional sense of the word.

The next Tom Cruise will be AI Tom Cruise.

Or Miles Fisher as deepfake Tom Cruise.

They'll find the next Tom Cruise on Tom-Tok

I recall WB tried to make Ezra Miller the next megastar only for all their (Miller) controversies becoming too big to ignore and Flash bombing so hard it didn't "make you forget the controversies" as WB hoped.

I will say that I didn't know that guy's name. There are a lot of actors that have a role, and then seem immediately to be in every film for a few years.

I am not sure that Tom Cruise is the Tom Cruise anymore. There was a time when he was more known as a crazy celebrity than as an actor. He even got fired once. He also seems to be in a rut, with his most recent success being a sequel and he keeps making MI movies, which are guaranteed to make a profit. So Tom Cruise still makes big movies and does his own stunts.

Movies have also changed. Because of streaming, there are a lot more movies being made, and quite frankly well known actors are making mediocre stuff.

I think at the end of the day you just have to ask "Is Timothee Chalamet an A-Lister now?"

Trying to go through the minutia of levels of stardom is a ridiculous exercise that only putting actors in the broadest bands is feasible. And yeah, I'd definitely consider him an A-Lister at this point.

I mean, I can spell the guy's name. That counts for something.

This week's Charts with Dan gives updates on Bob Marley: One Love and Madame Web, as they clear their second weekends. We have a few new releases, namely the episode complication films for Demon Slayer (To The Hashira Training) and The Chosen TV Series. Furthermore, Chinese releases continue to dominate the worldwide box office. Last but not least, Dan looks into the prospects of Dune: Part Two, and what kind of performance it needs to stack up among March releases.

• 0:22: Weekend Top 10
  • 0:37: Top 5 Highest Grossing Musician Biopics Domestically
  • 2:37: Top 5 Non Spider-Man, Sony Spider-Verse Box Office Grosses Through 12 Days

• 5:39: Road to Recovery Domestic Box Office Chart

• 6:29: Oppenheimer
  • Since it never left theaters since Summer 2023, it finally joins the Top 5 Highest Grossing R-Rated Films of All Time, Domestically. It throned It (2017)'s 5th place spot.
  • 7:17: Top 5 Highest Grossing R-Rated Films of All Time, Domestically, Inflation Adjusted.

• 8:00: Weekend International Box Office
  • 8:46: Weekend Worldwide Box Office

• 9:23: Per Theater Averages
• 10:28: Limited Release Films
  • 11:14: 2024 Top Grossing Limited Release Films
• 14:11: 2024 Annual Domestic Box Office
  • 15:22: 2024 Domestic Box Office (Calender Gross - Tickets Solds Since January 1st)
• 16:00: 2024 Worldwide Box Office
  • Dan also addresses some viewers' confusion and "frustration" about listing Chinese-only releases on this list. He explains that China is still a large part of the worldwide moviegoing audience, even if their films aren't typically released theatrically and concurrently in other nations.
• 18:07: Box Office Flashback

• 20:30: Dune: Part Two Preview
  • Dan wagers that, based on estimates, this sequel will easily be the highest-grossing openings for Timothée Chalamet and Denis Villeneuve's careers. Along with being the best 3-Day Opening of 2024 so far, and possibly among the Top 10 for March Domestic Openings.
  • Some other estimates predict $60-$80 million, due to its length cutting down on showtimes. However, with Dan's own experience at an early screening, he believes it may surprise that due to positive reactions. Thus, more expensive premium screenings will be bought.

Yeah I personally don't see Blue Beetle as a bomb not only because the marketing was smaller, but because expectations because of how niche the character is were set at a different pace too. It also had decent enough holds in the following weeks too.

A female-led superhero movie on Valentine's Day was definitely not a bad idea. From both the trailers and the ads though, little to no people had faith in Madame Web. That Sony made it just to cash in on Spider-Man was called by pretty much everybody and yeah, no wonder the movie's bombing as bad as it is.

How Dune: Part Two's gonna perform its first weekend is definitely something to look out for. The hype is really big right as is, so that definitely helps.

How do we see Kung Fu Panda doing this weekend?

uh not sure. I saw 50 Million weekend suggested.

Domestic?

Uh no unlikely since this film has awful advertising

Okay, Variety is also predicting $45-50 Million. Domestic it seems.

https://variety.com/2024/film/box-office/box-office-kung-fu-panda-4-opening-weekend-projection-dune-2-1235930925/

He has a point. The first trailer released just three months before his official theatrical release, and since the Super Bowl of this year, there has been a bunch and bunch of movie clips, and no second or three trailer. Heck, even Ruby Gillman had two trailers before his official release. This is a weird marketing move, even for Dream Works.

Edited by Starlink64 on Mar 5th 2024 at 6:07:28 AM

I think Megamind 2 has more advertising than this and is a weird direct to video thing

So how high or low is Dune 2’s 82M opening week-end compared to expectations?

Uh normal I heard. Should go to 650 million which is pretty decent profit for a film on its budget

What sort of drop is Dune looking at this weekend?

Word of mouth is very good for Dune. I reckon a very gentle drop.

Do you see it at #1 again this weekend?

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Mar 5th 2024 at 7:06:08 AM

Dune: Part Two is probably retaining the top spot. It opened on point and its got great momentum even still. Kung Fu Panda 4 I'm hearing is getting bad word of mouth, so that might hurt it.