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VinnyGreen from San Diego Since: Mar, 2015
#1: Dec 17th 2015 at 11:29:44 AM

Hi Tropers,

You don't hear from me much, but I'm the project manager looking after the redesign of TV Tropes. While we are working on wrapping up the site redesign, I wanted to know the community's opinion on changing the names of some of the principal pages on the site. The only pages I'm concerned with at this particular moment is 'You know, that thing where,' 'Remember that show' and 'Lost and Found.'

How does the community feel about changing the names of these pages to something that is clear to a new user?

-Vinny

edited 17th Dec '15 11:35:44 AM by VinnyGreen

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#2: Dec 17th 2015 at 12:11:14 PM

Speaking as a mod, I'd be happy to make a symbolic break with the old YKTTW and rename it as we rebuild it to be more functional and user-friendly.

Lost And Found has already been partially renamed to Trope Finder, and nobody seems to mind. You Know That Show is something that a lot of people seem to have trouble finding, so a rename seems reasonable.

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#3: Dec 17th 2015 at 12:29:32 PM

Moved to Wiki Talk, on my own assessment this is less a technical issue and more a policy/culture one.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#4: Dec 17th 2015 at 1:04:59 PM

Something like Page Workshop for YKTTW?

And if Trope Finder works, why not Work Finder for the work counterpart?

Anyway, I definitely agree that with a site redesign a few renames is certainly appropriate, especially if there's confusion with the current names.

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#5: Dec 17th 2015 at 1:57:18 PM

As the one who originally came up with the name Trope Finder (I'm totally modest, I swear), I do support Work Finder as a replacement for You Know That Show.

I'm a little leery of Page Workshop as a title for YKTTW, since that sounds a little broader than just page creation. I think given existing site terminology, Page Launcher would be my pick. Or if that's still too obtuse, we could be boring and just use Page Creator, but...

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#6: Dec 17th 2015 at 3:39:03 PM

Trope Creation Workshop or somesuch would be better as the replacement name for YKTTW, since it's usually tropes that get made there.

[tup] on Work Finder.

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#7: Dec 17th 2015 at 6:38:18 PM

Works Finder, though. Not sure people are looking for work when they want to find a show. We'll still get the occasional confused junkie looking for syringes and needles, but that could happen with any title, really.

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#8: Dec 17th 2015 at 8:03:02 PM

Works Finder is good.

If possible, I'd like whatever title we come up with to replace YKTTW to be able to have a catchy acronym or nickname.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#9: Dec 17th 2015 at 10:40:07 PM

[up][up][up]We do not create tropes. We create pages for tropes that already exist in media, and we name those tropes.

It's also better to not focus on a single aspect of it, even if it's the most used one, since that implies other uses don't belong there. There are enough tropers who don't know we can use YKTTW for creating work pages, and we don't need to add to that problem.

edited 18th Dec '15 2:23:51 AM by AnotherDuck

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#10: Dec 18th 2015 at 12:16:46 AM

Um, YKTTW can be used to create work pages...

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#11: Dec 18th 2015 at 1:56:54 AM

The YKTTW can be used for creating work pages. Please don't spread misinformation Another Duck.

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