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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#1: Oct 11th 2015 at 10:26:40 PM

So we were having a discussion on The Scrappy cleanup thread about Base Breaker, and there seems to be some confusion.

This is how I thought the trope worked:

Base Breaker requires that a character elicits reactions from most people that split them based on their differing opinions on the character. There needs to be pretty large, roughly equal groups (think 50/50 or 40/40ish, or hypothetically 3 groups of 30/30/30) that have conflicting opinions; having a small group of people not liking a character and the rest being apathetic or whatnot doesn't count for this.

This is what I have been told the trope is (note that this isn't an exact quote and it has been shortened):

If a character has anybody that doesn't like them, they are a Base Breaker.

If the latter is true, then the trope is Omnipresent/People Sit On Chairs and should not allow for examples anywhere for being pointless to mention. I have been told previously that wicks for it are fine and somewhere along the line got the definition I posted, hence my confusion.

If it matters there are currently over 2,900 wicks.

edited 11th Oct '15 10:34:48 PM by Karxrida

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#2: Oct 11th 2015 at 11:40:39 PM

That definition is indeed completely useless, as I would be hard-pressed to imagine any character who doesn't have at least one person hate them. But honestly, since the person claiming it in that thread is not a mod or some other sort of authority figure, I'm not sure it's worth worrying about.

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#3: Oct 12th 2015 at 5:15:59 AM

Yeah, that's ridiculous. Base Breaker requires that the fan base be substantially split, such that you can be defined by your "love it/hate it" stance with respect to a particular object or character.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#4: Oct 12th 2015 at 5:25:40 AM

Base Breaker says, "A character in a series who is loved by one section of the fanbase, and hated by the rest," and, "Either way, some fans like em, some fans don't, little in the way of a middle ground, flamewars ensue." That directly says that if there's a significant middle ground, it's not an example.

The bolded text means that all characters have fans and haters, and just that isn't a notable distinction. "Character has people who like her and people who dislike her," is People Sit On Chairs.

edited 12th Oct '15 5:28:26 AM by AnotherDuck

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