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FlamingoKai a.k.a. Malco from Tolbi Since: Jan, 2012
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#251: Sep 22nd 2015 at 7:17:46 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop

Basically, MGSV slightly tops Shenmue and MGS4 as the most expensive Japanese video game in plain cash to develop, but there's a lot of western games (and FF7 if advertising is included).

edited 22nd Sep '15 8:10:34 PM by FlamingoKai

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#252: Sep 22nd 2015 at 7:49:34 PM

Mind, Square Enix was the publisher for one of those.

So.

Like, yeah, it was the Eidos guys that developed it, but.

It was still Square's money.

Kojima Productions had an studio in LA.

edited 22nd Sep '15 7:54:09 PM by unnoun

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#253: Sep 22nd 2015 at 11:09:15 PM

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#254: Sep 22nd 2015 at 11:18:29 PM

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#255: Sep 22nd 2015 at 11:22:12 PM

Surprised Pokémon Red and Blue is on there, even with all of the marketing. With that price tag I'm actually shocked it got released at all, especially since Nintendo thought it wouldn't do well at first due to how late it came out in the Game Boy's lifespan.

Edit: No price tag is given for the actual development cost, I misread it because I'm on a phone. Still amazing that it's on the list for marketing alone.

edited 22nd Sep '15 11:33:10 PM by Karxrida

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#256: Sep 23rd 2015 at 7:11:40 AM

I'd point out Jim Sterling doesnt hate Konami. The reason he invented the fuck konami hashtag and meme is the sort of hate borne out of a true fan. Jim'sfavoerite game series of alkl time are silent Hill and Metal gear. Jim has been blacklisted literally by Konami for criticizing their dumb decisions, and is constantly disappointed in what they do with their franchises nowadays.

Its not that Jim hates Konami. its that he loves Konami I Ps so much that he despises what Konami has become.

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#257: Sep 23rd 2015 at 7:26:23 AM

I still should play Silent Hill at some point.

Good thing I didn't sell my PS 1. Or are the Silent Hill games on PSN?

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#258: Sep 23rd 2015 at 8:00:37 AM

@Bat178: Except that mid-tier devs can still do quite well...like Paradox or Atlus...

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#259: Sep 23rd 2015 at 8:23:04 AM

[up]Those two companies are doing something that more devs should try: instead of trying to reach ever-wider audiences, they are catering to a specific niche, and are good at it.

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#260: Sep 23rd 2015 at 8:34:02 AM

^ Yep, and it's why they're in mid-tier. And it's why I think that if another video game crash is coming, they'll be the one least affected...

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#261: Sep 23rd 2015 at 8:45:37 AM

@Powerpuffbats: Silent Hill 1 is on PSN, yeah. Silent Hill 2 and 3 are PS 2 but have got HD remakes for PS 3 and Xbox 360.

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#262: Sep 23rd 2015 at 8:50:45 AM

The 360 version is almost unplayable from what I have heard, so many frame rate issues and bugs.

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#263: Sep 23rd 2015 at 9:25:19 AM

@Midget: Yup, he'd much rather Konami sell them off or just let those series die a dignified death. He hates Konami the company.

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#264: Sep 23rd 2015 at 10:37:04 AM

^^ The PS 3 version isn't super great either. The PS 2-versions of both games are the ones I'd recommend.

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#265: Sep 23rd 2015 at 12:33:23 PM

But if you can't find the PS 2 versions, or don't have a PS 2, the PS 3 version is an acceptable substitute.

Didn't Zone of the Enders have the same problem? They were really buggy at first, and Konami only bothered to patch the PS 3 version?

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#266: Sep 23rd 2015 at 12:56:53 PM

I heard that about ZOE. Mine was perfectly fine, thankfully. I didn't get it at launch, so I probably missed the worst of it.

Apparently the same happened with Persona 3 FES, which was borderline unplayable on the PSN at first.

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#267: Sep 23rd 2015 at 1:57:17 PM

Can I download the PS 3 versions of Silent Hill 2 and 3?

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#268: Sep 23rd 2015 at 2:04:38 PM

At this point I'm just waiting for Konami to port all their old games to Steam (which will probably happen eventually). Though Silent Hill will probably get the shitty versions, so that series would still be screwed.

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#269: Sep 23rd 2015 at 4:24:56 PM

[up][up] No, they're disc only. It's pretty cheap though, because of the issues.

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#270: Sep 23rd 2015 at 4:30:33 PM

Then I'd have to buy the 360 version because my PS 3 has this weird thing with reading new discs.

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FlamingoKai a.k.a. Malco from Tolbi Since: Jan, 2012
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#272: Sep 23rd 2015 at 9:24:59 PM

Not really. I will take that "carefully worded" PR fluff with a grain of salt. Here's a cynical interpretation.

We’re still definitely working on console games(1) and franchises(2) such as Metal Gear, Silent Hill, Castlevania, PES and all the rest.

(1) - PES
(2) - The franchises will continue to be worked on, but only in pachislot.

edited 23rd Sep '15 9:25:13 PM by FlamingoKai

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#273: Sep 23rd 2015 at 9:27:55 PM

As mentioned earlier, western PR means very little. More importantly, they don't have the staff to make AAA games anymore. Metal Gear will be outsourced, and PES will continue as long as that sells, but that's probably about it as far as big games are concerned.

Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#274: Sep 24th 2015 at 12:04:39 AM

How exactly is it invalidated? Because the support people of the western branch of the company, AKA the absolute last people who to learn of company decisions, said so?

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#275: Sep 24th 2015 at 12:10:42 AM

as has been said before, unless konami's corporate culture changes somehow it's unlikely that anything good will come out of it.

i can see an outsourced metal gear game being released maybe, probably to some american dev with good intentions but who will be unable to recreate the series' magic without kojima, leading to a Broken Base at best and konami then using that as an excuse to discontinue the franchise except for pachinko theming or mobile exploits.

outside of that i think they're done.


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