Teen Titans (2003)

Youtuber Lowart has posted the final entries in his Teen Titans retrospective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljnaKwAhdZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tajAUrEdi7Q

The Original Animated Teen Titans Will Return for Teen Titans Go! vs. Teen Titans

The crossover to end all crossovers!

Called it!

I am not really a fan of the Teen Titans Go cartoon but if it can make a good crossover with the 2003 Teen Titans then I will be ok with it.

I didnt like teen titans go but I grow fond of it by is weird humor, and see teen titasn go with teen titans? that would be awsome.

I just noticed something. What happened with Trigon in the future of "How Long Is Forever?". Did TT beat him somehow?

Its implied very heavily that Raven became a bitter recluse in that timeline and stayed in her mini pocket dimension solely to hold him back.

After all her support network just disintegrated after Starfire disappeared which was pretty much all she had.

The sad and disturbing part is that is not even the worst fate for Raven if the team fell apart. In the Injustice timeline Beast Boy and one other Titan I think (forgot which one, I think it was Robin?) dies in Metropolis while the others barring Cyborg get tossed into the Negative Dimension by Superman I think. Cyborg and Raven at that point are the only Titans left (until Starfire breaks out later on but the original Titans are gone at that point) and Raven ends up becoming possessed by Trigon in that setting while Cyborg becomes a bitter and cold supporter of the Reigme that just wants to get his friends back.

Edited by Wispy on May 20th 2019 at 7:32:43 AM

Ok, so:

Does anyone feel that the writers kinda cheated with the evil and good counterparts in issue 48 in the tie-in comic?

Because the Speedy and Aqualad counterparts use old future names, Red Raven is a stablished evil version and they are using the Kimiyo Light and Rouge’s daughter?

I don't see how it's cheating using Arsenal and Tempest is just intentional reference. Happens all the time. It's like saying that having Peter wearing Spider-Man Noir-inspired outfit in Far From Home is somehow cheating.

And yeah, it's different Dr. Light. So the line-up doesn't match one-to-one. You could make the same point about Blackfire being Teen Tyrant.

It took me years to realize it, but Robin's costume in this series is actually near identical to the costume of Robin from Batman: The Animated Series.

I only realized it upon getting some opportunities to re-watch BTAS and seeing that Robin's costumes again.

At this point, Dick Grayson having Tim Drake inspired outfits should come as no surprise.

Edited by Blueace on Nov 11th 2019 at 1:59:13 PM

Tim Drake has the best/most adaptable Robin costumes, but adaptors don’t want to adapt Tim (grumble grumble) so they just give the other Robins his outfit.

Adaptations do have tendency to avoid legacy heroes and just adapt best known name (so, original) and give them traits of other people who wore the suit. This is why Barbara keeps running around as Batgirl, often acting like Stephanie Brown.

Tim got middle child-ed hard.

Basically, adaptations tend to want to use the classic versions of characters, but not only that, there are characters in comics whose basic concept relies on time and events having already happened in-story before for their introduction - which runs afoul of most adaptations’ desire to start at the beginning / with origins.

Tim’s concept is that he sought out Batman in a time where he was alone and spiraling, because he was inspired by Robin. He’s a character who was built for a Batman who has already lost Dick and maybe also Jason (depending on the story), and how he’s written reflects that. Adaptations don’t want to start with that already happening, so they ignore him (this is also probably why “Tim” in The New Batman Adventures was actually just a renamed Jason).

Worse still, DC then introduced a Robin who is actually Bruce’s son, which is a connection so inherently meaningful (at least on a surface level) that if going for a “second Robin” character, adaptors tend to just bypass Tim (and maybe Jason) and just go straight to Damien.

Which is a shame, because I’d argue imo Tim’s is conceptually more adaptable as a protagonist for film and tv than any of the others Robins. He’s got a more clear cut conflict as a character, and his run in the 90’s is basically a teen action series set to comic format.

IIRC Steph and Cass got hit with DC itself liking them a lot less than the fans and writers do.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 11th 2019 at 2:53:43 AM

CN is giving a lot of Teen Titans lately.

Well, a new season is kicking up soon. Probably trying to get young people who didn't grow up with it a refresher in time for the new season to come out.

...I didn't hear that season 6 of TT is happening after all. Did I missed an announcment?

A brief google search implies no.

Specifically, it appears that spec for Teen Titans Season 6 was big early last year, before people realized it was actually TT vs TT Go.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 17th 2020 at 1:51:31 AM

That was just a tandem marathon with Go! prior to the CN premiere of the movie.

Watching Teen Titans vs Teen Titans Go on Teletoon for the first time.

Didn't know the old school Titans joined in on the random musical number. I assumed they'd be just baffled by it, but then again, they also had their random musical numbers, though mostly with Mad Mod.

This is the first time I'm watching the full thing as opposed to clips on youtube, so it's a fun little ride.

Believe me, nostalgia aside the OG Titans are guilty of doing some stupid random shit in their own show. Like that time Cyborg going into a James Brown performance after beating a guy online.

The first season of the OG Teen Titans was a lot more off than people give it credit for.

To this day, it defines what I tend to call "first season problems:" where a shows have shaky, non-committal writing, weaker and generally less substantial character writing, and half-formed plots because they don't have it in stone what the show and its characters are going to be like and aren't sure yet that they're going to make it past one season. So there was a ton of randomness in there that slowly got filed off in the later seasons.

Lots of shows suffer from it (I'd go as far as to say most shows, especially during that time frame), but since TT was in my formative narrative years it's the one I always remember first.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 15th 2020 at 11:32:35 AM

The topic came up on twitter so I really wanna know: was Teen Titans Jinx supposed to be comic Jinx? They have different backstories, designs, and OG Jinx only appeared in three issues before 2003, but Jinx being on a team with Gizmo and Mammoth can't be a coincidence, right?

Technically, but this show took a lot of liberties, so them not resembling each other shouldn't surprise.