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KR_Vandal Since: Jun, 2014
#601: May 26th 2015 at 7:36:10 AM

Oh, poop! I'm sorry, everyone! Work came and pimp-slapped me across the face.

Lt.BGob The Fantabulous from The Merry Ol' Land of Oz Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Fantabulous
#602: May 27th 2015 at 12:34:46 AM

How's the next post coming along, Grate?

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”
whizzerd Transcender of Gender from Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#603: May 27th 2015 at 8:04:53 AM

[up][up] It's cool, happens to the best of us.

@Crowners: Don't think anything's stood out enough to get an entry yet imo. (Nor did I expect it to, since it's not even been 24 in-game hours yet tongue)

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Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#604: May 27th 2015 at 9:55:45 PM

Thinking about Trent's death and Sarah claiming Neil did it, there's really only one thing about the scene that would imply him: The phrase. The timing of the murder implies it most likely happened during the meeting, since if it happened before class Trent should of been found sooner whilst if he was murdered during that moment between Blake teleporting out and the announcement of Trent's death time would of needed to be manipulated.

Thus, Neil would of needed omnipresence or an illusionist/telepath on his side. Its still somewhat possible to believe Neil did it, but given he never once left the room all the New Agers were in he didn't exactly have a good time to do so. Thus suspecting Neil mainly just falls down to the phrase (which could of been framing or honestly someone else since beliefs aren't unique) and his open desire about making a better world with their powers.

However, given the stated goal by Grate about wanting to show what would really happen and Benjy's also somewhat illogical assumption, I think Sarah's assumption is meant to be deliberate meta-wise. Everybody's sort of just panicking and still adjusting, and Neil ultimately made the bigger scene despite there being more logical suspects.

"The Omniverse is the collection of all possibilities, and all possibilities must eventually come to pass."
RPGLegend Dipper fan from Mexico city Since: Mar, 2014
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#605: May 27th 2015 at 11:11:13 PM

[up] true but don't forget that Terry the actual murderer was there too. With powers involved Neil's alibi isn't very useful.

And I think he might be capable if long range murders. Whose not to say he manipulated the iron on his blood to make him explode?

My point is that it isn't so far fetched to suspect if him. Even though he is innocent.

edited 27th May '15 11:12:29 PM by RPGLegend

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Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#606: May 28th 2015 at 9:54:00 AM

There really shouldn't be that much iron in a person's body for Neil to pull off such a complex murder- Without looking at it to boot. Even if Neil had ordered one of the missing New Agers to do the murder, only two are unaccounted for and their abilities wouldn't exactly lend themselves well to implosion.

Thus, saying Neil did it requires a bunch of assumptions and bias. I should also point out, just because superpowers are involved doesn't mean logic should actually be tossed out the window. The only way Neil could of committed the murder himself would be long-ranged and he would of needed to know the location well. The only way he could of did it with help would be mental manipulators or a time controller, as the missing New Agers' powers wouldn't lend themselves well to doing it for him.

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#607: May 31st 2015 at 5:27:33 PM

I think we might need a post saying who/what's inside the nurse's office, if that's okay!

GrateEscape Fearless from Lady Justice's sacred home Since: Apr, 2015
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#608: May 31st 2015 at 7:28:40 PM

[up][up] I feel as if logical sense is not what's going on through Sarah's mind after someone just used their fresh new superpowers to kill an innocent kid, attracting a lot of attention to them.

[up] Fixed my post. Apologies for the case of bad reading.

Lt.BGob The Fantabulous from The Merry Ol' Land of Oz Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#609: May 31st 2015 at 7:45:53 PM

Hmmm, so some chick told the duplicating kid the bullets wouldn't hurt? Interesting.

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Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#610: May 31st 2015 at 8:23:24 PM

The woman that was watching the students arrive that morning right? If she's really one of our empowerers, someone associated with them or another New Ager then she lied to our good friend Gunner McGunnerson for the evulz right? Kid just got powers so he won't really have a clue how they work (thus believing her lie), yet the fact she knew he has powers clearly states she knows about the system more than we do. Now I'm just curious: Are they actively seeking to corrupt us, or do they only interfere when its fun for them?

Oh, and is our good friend Gunner McGunnerson really part of a stereotypical hard pressuring Asian family or what? Cause a stereotype would be a bit cheap, but if it was an non-Asian parent or family that was enforcing the stereotype on him it adds more to his suffering.

edited 31st May '15 8:30:07 PM by Kkutwar

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RPGLegend Dipper fan from Mexico city Since: Mar, 2014
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#611: May 31st 2015 at 10:10:46 PM

Yo know if Zia could master her powers there could be hope of some kind of masquerade.

In fact professor x of Xmen evolution maintained a masquerade by changing the memories of everyone that discovered the Mutants.

If Cornelius could build her a Cerebro,to amplify her powers, it could be doable, I think.

edited 31st May '15 10:12:32 PM by RPGLegend

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#612: May 31st 2015 at 10:28:01 PM

Well, given Neil and Zia's little fight there, he's more likely to trap her in Anti-Telepathy armor than make her a Cerebro. His opinion of her has dropped: Someone who'll willingly do something in the name of good they know they can't actually accomplish will only be a problem to his goal of salvation.

In fact, he'll probably make work on his own Magneto Helmet soon enough so Zia can't attack his brain again. He'll probably never truly consider her a possible ally ever again.

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Lt.BGob The Fantabulous from The Merry Ol' Land of Oz Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#613: May 31st 2015 at 10:42:10 PM

In her defense Zia hasn't been having the best day and Neil has been a bit of a condescending ass to her, even though she's trying to help him. After berating her for having a little trouble dealing with Ruth, then asking for more help with Gunner... She actually didn't really mean to attack him, it was an impulse that she sort of ran with.

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RPGLegend Dipper fan from Mexico city Since: Mar, 2014
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#614: May 31st 2015 at 10:54:52 PM

Yeah I wouldn't blame Xia either. I think all of them are under a lot of stress.

And I think Neil would be losing a big opportunity here. With a Cerebro, Zia could find the location of every new ager in the world and keep a masquerade or at least keep some of them a secret.

edited 31st May '15 10:57:25 PM by RPGLegend

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Lt.BGob The Fantabulous from The Merry Ol' Land of Oz Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#615: May 31st 2015 at 11:01:03 PM

I guess Neil is easy to insult, not big on trust either. In either outcome, it shall be interesting.

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RPGLegend Dipper fan from Mexico city Since: Mar, 2014
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#616: May 31st 2015 at 11:11:07 PM

Yeah I wonder what Zia will do if Neil does end up building a magneto helmet.

Out of character I think there is a good point Neil has. It sucks that money is needed for doing everything. And I don't mean money for pleasantries like going to the movies but for basic stuff like education, health and medicine.

edited 31st May '15 11:17:28 PM by RPGLegend

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Lt.BGob The Fantabulous from The Merry Ol' Land of Oz Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#617: May 31st 2015 at 11:14:10 PM

Too true- particularly in America, really. There used to be free university education in Australia and far better healthcare but then the liberals (our conservative party) cocked that up. Sigh.

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#618: May 31st 2015 at 11:15:21 PM

Well, you try losing every friend you ever made due to moves before you could actually contact people. Makes you not really want to befriend anyone just so you can't be hurt by their lost. Yet, he also easily accepts a person he honestly believes could be his friend. Thus, if this person betrays him, he'll just as easily hate them.

He likes talking because people would notice him then. He wants to make the world a better place because he cares about humanity. So in a way, you could say he's a person who wants to affirm he can actually be loved, instead of something that's just existing for no reason.

So Zia would have to try really hard to prove to Neil he can trust her with a Cerebro, to prove he doesn't have to take her out. However, due to committing grand theft auto and abducting a lifeless body she knows she can't treat, Neil at the very least can't trust her. He'll work with her when he needs her help, but he just can't trust her.

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Lt.BGob The Fantabulous from The Merry Ol' Land of Oz Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Fantabulous
#619: May 31st 2015 at 11:22:01 PM

She doesn't react well to harsh criticism as her self esteem is very low to begin with. she's not always what you'd call emotionally stable but she does think she can help Ruth, or will try her best. And she does intend to take her to somewhere that can care for her if worse comes to worse.

But Zia is pretty trustworthy in reality,doesn't try to let anyone down. She was just at the end of her tether. However, mistrust from Neil may make for an interesting plot.

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RPGLegend Dipper fan from Mexico city Since: Mar, 2014
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#620: May 31st 2015 at 11:25:53 PM

Yeah I agre, for example here in Mexico. Most people need to go to private university if they want a good education.

@Kkutwar Btw out if curiosity what does Neil think of Luna?

edited 31st May '15 11:26:46 PM by RPGLegend

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#621: May 31st 2015 at 11:41:28 PM

Given the lack of major interaction between them and mainly just knowing she's a rebel, he thinks he could get her on his side. Though he's probably a little worried she'll just go nuts with her powers, due to her disregard with shouting Shazam within the school. He takes great strides to be unbiased when interacting with people, though if his emotions leak through (like his worry about how badly things will go with the abduction and Ruth's reaction) he'll put less effort into it, such as his whole freakout moment when Luna transformed.

America in my experience is just super annoying. If you don't have a driver's license (yet could feasibly drive perfectly fine) you're basically locked in your home due to how far away everything major is. Even if you got food stores near your home, it'll still be a third of an hour getting there and another back. Then, if you actually want to be respected, you need to have meaningless pieces of paper. People can't just believe you're intelligent or qualified to do something without those things. Sure, it probably isn't that bad compared to other places, but America is still just annoyingly overcomplicated.

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Lt.BGob The Fantabulous from The Merry Ol' Land of Oz Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#622: May 31st 2015 at 11:53:07 PM

I visitd America yonks ago and I found it a bit ... well, like a giant Dandenong, haha. Though that was mainly LA. Depressing and too many big stores. The closest city to me is 30 or more km away. That being said, I walk or bike most places unless I need something particular. It also helps that there are a few somewhat bigger suburbs around my way and that I'm not on the other side of the continent. Nothing terribly interesting however so I've learned to make my own fun... It was that or mug people if the local demographic is anything to go by. It's nearly 2 hours to my university, though, which wears thin after 4 years.

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RPGLegend Dipper fan from Mexico city Since: Mar, 2014
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#623: Jun 1st 2015 at 12:28:41 AM

I feel your pain. I mean I live in one of the most populated cities in the world and trust me using public transport can be a nightmare. For example being forced to use a bus that literally could malfunction at any second, isn't nice.

Worse if you consider that you have to be up all the time as they are always overcrowded.

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Kkutwar The Prince of Foolish Relevations from A Place Beneath both Good & Evil Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#624: Jun 1st 2015 at 12:51:37 AM

Welp, one of the first things Cornelius will do is improve transportation then. He has his powers which make building things crazy easy and Ruth who can learn with insane ease new things. So Ruth just needs to write up the schematics for some super technology, and Cornelius can piece it together. Speaking of, if she'll still work with Neil, I intended for him to get her help in actually designing his Shockbox armor.

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GrateEscape Fearless from Lady Justice's sacred home Since: Apr, 2015
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#625: Jun 3rd 2015 at 3:59:27 AM

This next future post will be... electrifying.


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