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gtrhnetyy Since: Nov, 2014
#1: Apr 6th 2015 at 12:18:46 PM

Hello, forum!

I have a bit of a strange question and maybe someone could help me.

If there are immortal characters (let's call it short magic because that is another topic all together) and their cells can divide and renew without limit. For example, a person of 30 years old, biologically staying at the same age.

Now males in real life will produce semen until they die (if health allows) so that is obvious. But females have limited amount of egg cells.

My question is: how would body of immortal (in a way as described before) woman act? Would egg cells replenish or not even if other cells have unlimited number of dividing power?

My question came from running into a block. As much as I know, female bodies have only limited amount of egg cells and it is as if they are... foreign, installed addition. Unlike all other cells that divide and get restored or healed if needed. So if this woman is immortal, would her fertility simply stop when she reaches menopause at the age of 50 and then, still be biologically 30 years old for thousands of years to come, but not being fertile? And would she have effects of menopause (the heat waves and such)?

I'm almost feeling I should not think too much and just handwave it with magic or something. XD

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#2: Apr 6th 2015 at 4:08:01 PM

Immortal humans are already in a different ball game altogether. Eternal female fertility doesn't really compare in implausibility. Just say the immortality inducing process does several changes to ensure you really are equivalent to a 30 year old forever.

edited 6th Apr '15 4:08:32 PM by Ekuran

Meklar from Milky Way Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#3: Apr 6th 2015 at 4:16:11 PM

I think it would depend how the immortality is achieved. If you already have the technology to keep a biological human alive and youthful indefinitely, it's not much of a stretch to imagine using similar technology to get a woman's body to keep producing extra egg cells. But getting that effect 'by default', without planning it, strikes me as considerably less likely.

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shiro_okami ...can still bite Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#4: Apr 6th 2015 at 4:17:15 PM

Menopause is part of the aging (and dying) process, so a truly immortal woman would never experience menopause and would be fertile forever. And even if men produce an unlimited number of sperm, that does not necessarily mean that their reproductive system is not affected at all by aging; erectile dysfunction is a thing.

Unlike all other cells that divide and get restored or healed if needed.

Not true. There are some cells that do not heal very well if at all (nerves, cartilage).

edited 6th Apr '15 4:49:59 PM by shiro_okami

washington213 Since: Jan, 2013
#5: Apr 6th 2015 at 6:17:24 PM

Keep in mind all humans of both genders have their brain cells deteriorate over time. Even if you take good care and don't drink, do drugs, or get a serious concussion, the natural movements of your head kills brain cells. As You Know, the brain doesn't heal like the rest of our body.

The heart also does not heal. Have a heart attack? That damage is there forever.

An immortal person would need some way to keep their heart and brain going, despite these things having no real way to repair themselves naturally. So an immortal woman replenishing her eggs makes just as much sense as anything else about immortals.

Faemonic Since: Dec, 2014
#6: Apr 6th 2015 at 11:35:43 PM

Turritopsis nutricula and Time Lords (maybe) go through a sort of regenerative phase. Maybe your immortals can do the same for selective parts of their body, their brains and hearts and ova. Apparently T. nutricula can only start doing that after puberty, though, so there is some sense of age in the cells or in the body.

DeusDenuo Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#7: Apr 7th 2015 at 9:23:28 AM

Those eggs are released monthly, yeah? Just increase the length of the cycle, for an immortal.

How many women would like to have a regular period once per decade? Answer: lots.

ManInGray from Israel Since: Jul, 2011
#8: Apr 17th 2015 at 7:09:12 PM

If I understood correctly, women are born with about a million immature eggs, the vast majority of which are lost over time without taking part in ovulation. If they are not lost to anything other than ovulation, that gives a woman over 83,000 years of fertility.

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