Pretty much any pic for this one is going to be dialogue-heavy. I don't really have a problem with the current, but if something can be found that works with less text, I'm all for it. Removing the pic entirely and sticking with the page quote also works for me.
Keep Until Better Image Suggested for now, although I don't think images for this trope strictly require text.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI'm also in Keep Until Better Image Suggested territory on this one.
Absent-minded professor and Neverwinter Nights DMClock is set.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI'd kill the image.
It's better than nothing. Keep Until Better Image Suggested.
Moon◊This site seems to constantly teeter back and forth between whether something's better than nothing or not. Plenty of images have been suggested in the past that, while not great, were turned down in lieu of keeping it blank. There really needs to be some kind of policy on whether or not a page really should be kept blank or not.
^I think it is more that if what is suggested isn't a notable improvement over what is already there no change will come of it. Status Quo Is God at work.
This signature says something else when you aren't looking at it.And if someone ninja-slips an image in without making an IP thread and then later down the line defends it as "status quo"?
As a general question? I think a slipped in picture would need to be considered during the discussion. A recent change without discussion is a valid concern.
In this particular instance it appears the picture has been around since October of 2011. So that is an old ninja.
All I was pointing out is that in any debate between a mediocre picture and a blank spot people are going to tend to prefer no change if they don't feel that there is much of an advantage of one over the other.
This signature says something else when you aren't looking at it.I just wish we had a policy in place outside of "Let it Be". Either some kind of ruling for minimum worth required for an image, or always allowing an image if it doesn't hurt the page, even if it isn't very good.
But who judges "good enough"?
Because that is exactly what we are doing here. Kind of a catch-22 that tosses it back to us even if there were a rule on it.
This signature says something else when you aren't looking at it.So by default there should always be an image? Because if there's no accounting for taste on whether something's "good enough", would that mean that if one guy likes an image and it's not hurting the page then it's good enough to stay on it?
^Define "good enough". Give me a starting point of what it means. If someone can't give an objective definition on what is "good enough" then there is no point to having a rule.
The only other option that I see is that it becomes mandatory that all images go through the IP process. Basically make IP a YKTTW for pictures.
For the time being JAFAAC covers this situation with "A caption may be inside the image or even disguised as something else, like a Speech Balloon." So just because the text is in the image does not exempt it from JAFAAC.
This signature says something else when you aren't looking at it.Speaking of which, I vote to pull the current image as JAFAAC
This signature says something else when you aren't looking at it.All images are supposed to go through IP anyway even if nothing's up.
I have checked How To Pick A Good Image, Just A Face And A Caption, and Tropes Needing Images and I can't find that anywhere. In fact, both Tropes Needing Images and JAFAAC imply you can just add a picture as long as there isn't a comment from IP or staff saying that you can't add one. How To Pick A Good Image mentions IP as a good place to get help but does not say it is mandatory.
This signature says something else when you aren't looking at it.edited 23rd Mar '15 1:04:40 PM by ShadowHog
Moon◊Agree with the above. That isn't slipping anything, it's fine. If someone has what they think is a better suggestion, they can cite "current added without discussion" among their arguments.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.The clock is way up and there's no consensus on what to do; locking up.
The image is pretty much "just a page quote", and I'm not sure what the image is adding to the text, and it's redundant to the page quote. Although to be honest, I don't know if this can be pictured without a heavy use of text.