And with the newest attack in Berlin i''m seeing it all over again
"Thank you Merkel"
"I'm so sorry for the victims but if this pisses off enough people that politicians take action and the "progressive" shitshow falls apart thus halting Europe's islamization, that will be a small relief"
"Funny, every time some Ahmed does some crazy shit, the moment something's out of the ordinary people instantly think in muslims mucking around. I wonder why that is, hmmm"
"Bet muslims now are thinking....please don't let it be one of ours, we won't have New Year rapings otherwise"
"Guess now they'll finally start a BEAT UP THE MUSLIM day!"
"Trump and Putin, I put my faith on you"
This year has been stressing me out to hell and back and the next four are only going to get worse
About your previous post, the Daesh are muslim, just like the Inquisition was christian. That's a No True Scotsman fallacy.
There are extremist groups like that for every religion, unfortunately, it's the islamic ones that kill more people and get more recognition. Not everyone thinks you're all terrorists though.
edited 19th Dec '16 2:12:16 PM by Grafite
Life is unfair...
United Earth
They're more like the Lord's Resistance Army, and other armed doomsday cult Christian movements, but that shit gets ignored.
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
Well, most of the time at least. How long did the Kony 2012 bandwagon last?
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like.... a few months, and then the guy who owned the company was arrested for masturbating in public
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Not very. It was short enough that one of the MCs at my brother's high school talent show could make a joke out of "you'll forget this show as quickly as you forgot Joseph Kony."
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'Draconian' EU security laws target Muslims: Amnesty International
The human rights group sounded the alarm over security measures adopted over the past two years in 14 EU nations, including expanded surveillance powers. During that period, militant attacks have killed some 280 people in France, Belgium and Germany.
The attacks, mostly claimed by the Islamic State group, have fanned tensions over immigration, fuelled the popularity of right-wing parties and made security a key theme in upcoming French, Dutch and German elections.
"Right across the EU regional space we see Muslims and foreigners being equated with terrorists," said Julia Hall, an Amnesty International expert on counterterrorism and author of the report. "This stereotyping so disproportionately affects these communities that there is a high degree of fear and alienation."
She warned that "draconian" surveillance measures and powers of search, detention and arrest like those introduced in France since November 2015, when attacks killed 130 people, could be abused to target activists or minority groups that did not pose a genuine threat.
Amnesty is critical of a European Union draft law, to be adopted this year, that seeks to punish people for travelling or planning to travel to join a terrorist group. It says the wording of the law is unclear and it casts too wide a net.
A European Commission spokeswoman rejected Amnesty's criticism and said the EU would closely monitor for potential abuses in the bloc's 28 member states.
EU Security Commissioner Julian King said he agreed with the report that fundamental rights must not be put at risk. "That is what the terrorists are attacking," he said on Twitter.
APOLOGISTS
New measures to crack down on glorifying or being an apologist for terrorism, Amnesty said, were shrinking the space for freedom of expression. In France in 2015, a third of more than 380 people prosecuted for apologising for terrorism were minors, it said.
The rights group condemned what it dubbed the "Orwellian" use of curfews, travel restrictions and police check-ins to monitor individuals who were not convicted of crimes and often did not know what they were accused of.
Hall criticised what she described as "governments looking at a person and saying: 'You look very suspicious to me. So I'm going to restrict your behaviour because I think you might commit a crime.'"
France this month paid tribute to 17 people killed two years ago by Islamist militants in three days of violence that began with an attack on satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo.
Among other major attacks, suicide bombings in Brussels last March killed 32 people, and a Tunisian man mowed down 86 by driving a truck through a Bastille Day crowd in July in the French city of Nice. Another truck attack killed 12 in Berlin last month.
(Reporting by Alissa de Carbonnel; Editing by Mark Trevelyan)
There was so much wrong with this campaign that I don't even know where to begin.
But on the whole "why do get Islamic extremists more attention than Christian/other ones": I think it comes mostly down to the Islamists group making themselves known pretty decisively in "Western" countries by committing terror attacks.
Had Kony (or another Christian warlord) ordered a terror attack in Europe or America, people would still remember him outside of "Hey, wasn't there this slacktivism campaign a few years ago?"
It might sound sad, but people care more if it affects them directly - and it's in general difficult to care for people you've never seen in your life. :/
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But white separatists and the extreme right are the biggest attackers in Europe...
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
A procrastination in of itself
Sure but they don't carry out attacks in as large and flashy a way. Plus the news generally refuses to call them Christian terrorists regardless of their declared motives.
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There's also the logical premise that, because Islam is now the most populous religion in the world, there's understandably going to be numerically more extremists pertaining to that religion than others.
edited 18th Jan '17 7:25:28 AM by FluffyMcChicken
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Happening beyond Christian reach, happening to other Muslims mostly.
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Are Separatists and the extreme right in Europe specifically Christian affiliated (or claim to be)?
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
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the IRA's big thing was they were Catholic Irish fighting against Protestant Irish
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A procrastination in of itself
Also separatists are by their nature not pan-European, so the danger feels more isolated.
The IRA wouldn't attack Paris or Berlin, but ISIS would.
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I remember the IRA and ETA being a huuuuge deal in The '90s.
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So, there was a shooting at a mosque in Quebec City. At least 5 dead, unknown number wounded. Two suspects have been detained.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686
This mosque had been vandalized with pig heads a few months back.
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Goddamnit. I always thought it was just a matter of time before something like that happened. I never expected that to happen in my home province, though...
Also, what is so objectionable about "Sharia Law"? Or is it just something racists use as a stand-in for "the Islamic religion"?
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
A lot of the time, yes.
"Sharia law" is generally understood in Western countries as Muslims forcing other people, including non-Muslims, to obey the rules of Islamic fundamentalism, or else. Things like forcing women to wear the veil/niqab/burqa, threatening people who sell pork or alcohol, or basically anything that make people think of the talibans.
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Basically & . Sharia law in reality is not much different in essence from Christianity's and Judaism's decrees on how Christians and Jews should live their lives and practice their respective religions.
Example of Sharia: halal, the Islamic equivalent of Jewish kosher when it comes to food.
Not an example of Sharia: Daeshites demanding that Syrian and Iraqi Muslims living within the territories that they (Daesh) invaded without the support of said natives adhere 100% to all elements of the Daesh version of Islam... which is often blatantly un-Islamic.
edited 30th Jan '17 4:35:04 PM by MarqFJA
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A procrastination in of itself
Yeah in reality I believe Sharia Law means the same thing as Juedo-Christian law, which is anything the person using it wants. It's the same basic idea as how many christian nations have their laws rooted in biblical law in some for,
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So it's all a racist dog-whistle after all, just like I thought. Good to know.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison
And all the talk about banning it in Western countries is just BS, because none of them use it in the first place.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Regarding this discussion, was going to bring something up but I actually have a question with part of it. So, there's been a couple of articles I've seen about villages in France and Spain with names to the effect of "death to Jews" and efforts to change them- the French one is La Mort aux Juifs
and the Spanish one is Mota de Judios
. I think there might be more than one of these in Spain. I bring it up in this thread because I read about it in this article
, which noted "The BBC reports that another city in Spain is called Valle de Matamoros or 'Kill the Moors Valley.' That city has no plans to change its name."
So Yeah.
What my question was is that looking on Wikipedia, I see that Mota de JudÃos has a Star of David in its seal. I'm guessing this is a recent thing based on the fact it has the color scheme of the Israeli flag. Apparently the other thing the town is known for, besides the name, is a famous organist and the seal also has an organ on it, which leads me to think that the current seal must have been something created recently/since their name change. Am I guessing correctly, Spanish tropers?