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Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#126: Feb 6th 2015 at 10:20:33 AM

PSA: This game is 22.7GB,

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#127: Feb 6th 2015 at 10:22:49 AM

hm... HOW ABOUT THAT RETAIL RELEASE, HMM?

but yeah, even if it werent that big i'd still probably get a physical copy. it doesnt feel right to not have a stack of games i own for consoles.

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#128: Feb 6th 2015 at 10:29:15 AM

[up][up]That is preinstall size. I thought it maxed out the disc and that is 25 GB.

[down]It might still be a bigger download size. This is for Japan they only have one language track but for US and Europe they will probably have English and Japanese languages so that should add to the download size.

I still prefer Physical copies if I can.

edited 6th Feb '15 10:45:00 AM by Halberdier17

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Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#129: Feb 6th 2015 at 10:32:58 AM

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No, they said it almost couldn't fit.

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#130: Feb 6th 2015 at 10:37:25 AM

Gonna stick with a hard copy myself.

Keep downloads for Virtual console games if I can help it. Seems safer on the whole.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#131: Feb 6th 2015 at 11:02:47 AM

How so? If something happens to your game disc then you're screwed and have to buy another copy. If the game's files become corrupt for the digital version then you just delete it and redownload it. You also can't misplace digital files nor can they be stolen and you'll get faster loading times. Top that off with the simple convenience of not having to switch discs when you want to switch games. I really can't see the benefit of buying a physical copy unless you simply don't have a good enough Internet connection.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#132: Feb 6th 2015 at 11:18:29 AM

i like to think my internet connection is pretty good.

but all the same, downloading full 3ds games takes more or less half a day just because i have to keep doing the full download over and over again only to be told it failed for whatever reason and i need to try it again.

im not crazy enough to attempt it with a game that is nearing 30gb.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#133: Feb 6th 2015 at 11:29:58 AM

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Didn't think about stuff like that.

The truth is I'm just old fashioned in that way. I've always both the physical games and it's just what I'm used to.

[up][up]

You make some good points about the benefits of downloading however. I did get the bigger Wii U (the black one with the larger storage space) so maybe I will try a digital download at one point.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#134: Feb 6th 2015 at 11:34:09 AM

black wii u ftw.

but uh...it does sorta cause the problem that the wii u is placed under the table, so i need to use a torch to see what im doing down there x.x

worth it tho.


i'll probably wait a bit after xcx comes out to ask around and see just how much quicker the loading screens are in comparison, before i commit to either download or physical.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#135: Feb 6th 2015 at 11:36:16 AM

Oh, the ability to play it immediately is definitely one of the few strengths that buying physical copies has. Even with my Internet, it took me a couple of hours to download Bayonetta and that was 11 GB. I have no doubt that XCX is going to take me at least five hours if not longer. The wait will definitely be torturous but I think it'll be worth it.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#136: Feb 6th 2015 at 12:20:43 PM

If the game's files become corrupt for the digital version then you just delete it and redownload it.
Unless the game's files became corrupt after the eShop service shut down, in which case you're boned.

You also can't misplace digital files nor can they be stolen and you'll get faster loading times.
Oh, no, they can be stolen pretty easily - when the base console is stolen. In fact, if your Wii U is stolen, the only way you can get your files back is to call Nintendo and have a police report as evidence that it was, in fact, stolen. This is because your purchases are tied to the console, not your NNID.

Digital isn't as foolproof as you seem to think it is - especially not when Nintendo's account system is as basically nonexistent as it currently is.

(Also my 32GB is already full, and I don't have the spare power plug nor space available to plug in an external HDD to the back.)

edited 6th Feb '15 12:21:31 PM by ShadowHog

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#137: Feb 6th 2015 at 12:23:07 PM

Well, everything has it's flaws and advantages to be honest.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#138: Feb 6th 2015 at 12:32:59 PM

Yes, and it's a matter of weighing them against your own personal preferences to decide which is the optimal purchasing choice.

And for me, that would be physical. Digital is just too ephemeral for me.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#139: Feb 6th 2015 at 1:16:43 PM

On Wii U your purchases are tied to your NNID. The issue is that your NNID is tied to your Wii U and is not easily moved. That's less about how digital distribution works in general and more on how terrible Nintendo's account stuff is.

I'll probably go physical for this, but I'll see. I do like having to carry around less discs.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#140: Feb 6th 2015 at 3:13:15 PM

[up]x4 Your point is only true for now. Once your NNID isn't tied to the console then it becomes a moot point as you can just download the games on a new console once the old one is stolen. As for your first point, if the files become corrupt and the game is no longer available on the eShop (something which shouldn't happen for a good number of years) then you just buy a physical copy of the game. At that point, it'd be no different than the disc being scratched or broken.

Digital copies are still the best logical choice no matter how you look at it.

edited 6th Feb '15 3:13:29 PM by Zelenal

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#141: Feb 6th 2015 at 3:18:42 PM

"Once your NNID isn't tied to the console then it becomes a moot point as you can just download the games on a new console once the old one is stolen."

great.

so when is that going to happen? until it happens, i'd think his point isnt quite moot yet.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#142: Feb 6th 2015 at 3:26:42 PM

Before the release of the next console or handheld, that's for certain. While that's rather vague, it'll definitely be a thing that happens. Besides, if someone steals your console, they're more than likely going to steal your games as well so, again, its a moot point. I also speak from experience when I say that.

Pretty much the only safety that CDs offer is that they might be unaffected by an electromagnetic pulse but you'd have a lot more problems than just being unable to play your games if you're area got hit by one of those.

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#143: Feb 6th 2015 at 3:46:02 PM

C Ds have other uses too, like being a circular hand-mirror!

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#144: Feb 6th 2015 at 3:52:08 PM

You can also bounce light off them to signal passing ships when you're stranded on a deserted island!

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Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#145: Feb 6th 2015 at 3:52:57 PM

They also make great weapons to throw at intruders!

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#146: Feb 6th 2015 at 3:54:47 PM

I cannot disagree with any of this.

They also make wonderfully decorative coasters!

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TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#147: Feb 6th 2015 at 3:59:07 PM

And they can spin! Everything's Better with Spinning!

edited 6th Feb '15 4:02:08 PM by TheAirman

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#148: Feb 6th 2015 at 4:58:25 PM

Once your NNID isn't tied to the console then it becomes a moot point as you can just download the games on a new console once the old one is stolen.
Pssh. Like that will happen.

Sorry, but for as much as I love Nintendo, I have absolutely zero faith they're going to be able to clean up the mess they made by tying NNIDs to consoles anytime soon - they're probably not going to get it right until the next console, leaving the Wii U as-is. And as long as their digital setup is as bad as it currently is, that is a major strike against buying games digitally that are available physically.

As for your first point, if the files become corrupt and the game is no longer available on the eShop (something which shouldn't happen for a good number of years)...
This has already happened several times with digital-only games.

I hope you weren't interested in buying Marvel vs. Capcom Origins, Outrun Online Arcade, After Burner Climax, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World or Marble Blast Ultra off of XBLA or PSN (as relevant) any time soon, because none are available for sale anymore.

The original Xbox had several games available through Xbox Live Arcade; all of which are totally inaccessible now because Microsoft shut off Xbox Live for the original Xbox in April 2010.

Even Nintendo's shut off some things. I hope you weren't planning on playing Super Smash Bros. Brawl online ever again, because outside of jumping through some hoops that third-parties have set up, it's no longer doable; the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service is gone. I imagine the Wii Shop Channel for the original Wii (perhaps not the Wii U) is on numbered days as well.

This is why I'm wary of the all-digital future people seem to desperately want. There's too many things that could easily go wrong with it. Games becoming totally impossible to obtain because licensing yanked them from the service, or the service itself went down because Technology Marches On. If the option is ever available for me to just get a physical copy, it's generally the more reliable one to take.

Oh, and you completely glossed over my whole "also I don't have 23GB available on my Wii U and don't have the space to put an external hard drive" thing, too. That's kind of the killer. I'm not interested in playing the whole "fridge" game again like I had to with the Wii. (I have no idea why Nintendo thought 32GB would be enough for anyone; if they were going to push digital as hard as they are, they should've put in at least 100GB. Forcing the consumer to buy external HDDs is more of a band-aid than anything, much appreciated though it is.)

Digital copies are still the best logical choice no matter how you look at it.
For you.

I'm glad you're happy buying digital, but it boggles my mind that you seem utterly insistent that buying physical is somehow an objectively worse option for everyone under the sun. It isn't.

edited 6th Feb '15 5:10:46 PM by ShadowHog

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Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#149: Feb 6th 2015 at 5:38:22 PM

I maxed out my Wii U memory the other day. I'm just lucky that I have a lot of power points.

But I don't trust my internet connection for a good download. It always feels as if something wants to go wrong.

Besides, physical copies can come with things like soundtrack C Ds, or art books.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#150: Feb 6th 2015 at 5:38:57 PM

And external hard drives is also an incredibly inviable option since there's no guarantee whether an HDD will work well or not. You might waste your money getting something that produces omnipresent lag in your game.

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