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Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#1251: May 17th 2015 at 11:28:06 PM

I kinda hope that Shouto eventually just stops caring about his father entirely and basically writes him out of his life on a personal level. I feel that would be the most damning way Shouto could deal with Endeavour, given how much Endeavour wants to be seen as important and wants to use Shouto for that goal.

Can one disown themselves? Like, write yourself out of your own family line? I could see him pulling an Ace and using his mothers Maiden name for something like that, for example, just to escape the social connection of having the same name as Endeavour.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1252: May 18th 2015 at 6:54:26 AM

Sibling terminology in Japan can be kind of vague. You'd have to look at the raws to see what Endeavor actually said. He might have stuck the older brother and older sister kanji together but still pronounced it kyoudai, which is generally read as brothers.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1253: May 19th 2015 at 7:36:41 PM

How Ace dealt with his situation didn't seem very healthy to me, actually.

Anyway, I'm thinking this fight will be three chapters long. Things will only get really serious in the second chapter when Shouto starts using his flames and who knows how things will go from there but things won't be easy for either of them.

I get the feeling Bakugou has strategy to deal with either side and a move he's saved specifically for this. Something I've thought off from him analyzing his abilities and such.

BrainBlowX Since: Dec, 2014
#1254: May 20th 2015 at 3:22:48 AM

I don't think Iida's brother is actually dead. Oh I'm sure he's incapacitated, maybe even forced into retirement, but not dead.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1255: May 20th 2015 at 11:48:57 AM

I'd very disappointed if he's still alive. You don't introduce a guy known as the hero killer who is notorious for, well, killing many heroes, have him looming over a known hero's body, and cut to a phone call with the relatives only for it to turn out "Tenya you're big brother is.... badly hurt but he'll probably make it."

It undercuts the entire thing. Yeah, this isn't a particularly dark series but it's not like we know Tenya's brother.

It might not be a deal breaker but it's anticlimactic as hell and frankly, a cope out.

edited 20th May '15 12:37:02 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1256: May 20th 2015 at 12:00:37 PM

Not if he killed a bunch of other heroes but Iida's bro survived just barely and by pure luck.

And he's still crippled for life and has no chance of continuing his hero career.

It still has lasting consequences, while establishing the dude as a threat.

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#1257: May 20th 2015 at 12:03:46 PM

Amusingly,he has the thrusters on his arms,instead of his legs.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1258: May 20th 2015 at 12:04:25 PM

Yeah, and the first guy he goes after the first time we hear about him lives just because. I find it unlikely he's going to kill any heroes we already know (though he might) so if he doesn't even have this it makes it hard to consider him a threat.

Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but I still say if you're introducing him as the hero killer, and he seems to have killed a hero in his introduction, actually let that hero be dead.

edited 20th May '15 12:05:44 PM by LSBK

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1259: May 20th 2015 at 12:24:29 PM

Rob: We're early enough in the story that this sets a precedent. If you introduce a hero killer but have him fail then from here on out it becomes less likely than anyone else will succeed either.

BrainBlowX Since: Dec, 2014
#1260: May 20th 2015 at 12:36:59 PM

I think a bigger problem with Iida's brother dying is that we don't know him. At all. Nor do we know much about the actual relationship between brothers. All of Iida's grief and rage would be quite hollow to the audience were his brother to be dead.

Though I honestly do not care much either way. I do like the idea of Iida's brother being forced into retirement due to injury, though. It could give the best of both. We'd get to see the character, and there would still be something very personal for Iida to avenge.

edited 20th May '15 12:38:01 PM by BrainBlowX

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1261: May 20th 2015 at 12:38:44 PM

That we don't know him is why it's okay for him to be dead. He's not a character anyone is really attached to but his death can still stir development and drama for Iida and those in the main cast.

And I might sound like a broken record, but having Engenium be alive after that set up, defeats the purpose of introducing Stain like that.

Edit: And if it's done right it doesn't have to be hollow. I don't have to have memories of my grandparents or aunt who've died to understand how their dying affected the members of my family who did know them. I don't see why fiction can't be like that.

edited 20th May '15 12:41:03 PM by LSBK

BrainBlowX Since: Dec, 2014
#1262: May 20th 2015 at 3:41:03 PM

Because you still get explicitly detailed stories of those grandparents, and pictures, film, etc You build a connection.

We've seen none of Iida's brother, and having him just be some faceless guy offed off screen makes it harder to empathize properly. This will be a big part of Iida's struggles from now on, and I'd prefer his motivation to not be faceless.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1263: May 20th 2015 at 3:44:32 PM

Just because we don't meet him doesn't mean he's faceless. We can have childhood flashbacks, or stories, or really, can just empathize because someone's brother was murdered.

I don't think undercutting Stain's threat on his introduction by having him fail to do the thing he's gained notoriety for and we're presumably supposed to expect him to do is worth it to keep alive a character who even if he lived was likely never going to be very important or make more than a few cameo visits.

Edit: For the record, I'm not saying I don't think there's a chance that he's still alive. I think there is a fairly decent shot at that, just that I think it would be a stupid thing to do.

edited 20th May '15 3:59:14 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1264: May 20th 2015 at 4:44:29 PM

I still say having a bunch of other heroes revealed to be dead (maybe in the same attack) while Iida's bro is just barely alive and still badly injured would work.

That being said, we could have some flashbacks of the latter if he's really done for, since I can understand why people would say that him living would downplay the power of Hero-Killer dude too much.

Then again, I also agree with those who say we don't know enough about Iida to care for him.

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Elfive Since: May, 2009
#1265: May 21st 2015 at 2:14:13 AM

Hero-Maimer is acceptable, if somewhat less catchy a term.

TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#1266: May 21st 2015 at 2:51:01 AM

We have a guy who survived after getting blackhole'd. I would actually be surprised if Iida's brother died dor real.

Besides, killing him when we know nothing about him would put him as a Disposable Woman, and make him as a cheap plot device for Iida to get a motivation.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1267: May 21st 2015 at 8:55:02 AM

Technically the guy who survived was also wearing a suit, so we never saw how much the black hole consumed.

Edit: If spoilers are right Kacchan wins because Todoroki ends up throwing the fight. I've seen the image of Todoroki using fire and looking back on some events, but the rest is a summary.

edited 21st May '15 12:14:11 PM by OmegaRadiance

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#1268: May 21st 2015 at 1:21:23 PM

Saw a pic implying a double KO here.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1269: May 21st 2015 at 1:33:28 PM

Midnight knocks Kacchan out after he gets real mad and continues fighting after seeing Todoroki threw the fight.

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#1270: May 21st 2015 at 1:52:01 PM

Ah.Way to win people's affection,Kacchan.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1271: May 21st 2015 at 1:56:03 PM

To be fair Todoroki throwing the fight is also ignoring the whole deal Deku made where he ripped his arms apart to make him fight seriously.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1272: May 21st 2015 at 2:13:02 PM

If my opponent threw a fight with me I'd be pretty pissed too. That's really insulting.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#1273: May 21st 2015 at 11:54:01 PM

I'd like to note that "him still being barely alive in pile of corpses" would work as introduction instead of tease :P Since latter comes across as "Haha you thought he died" while previous is really freaky

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#1274: May 22nd 2015 at 6:12:01 AM

and Bakugo remains an awful, awful human being. The fact this victory is totally tainted and ruins it for him is amusing.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1275: May 22nd 2015 at 6:14:58 AM

I didn't see him do anything in this chapter that was particularly awful. His grievance here is pretty well founded.

But either way, I suppose this let's us focus on what's to come next and find about Iida's brother without having to move away from the fight.

edited 22nd May '15 6:16:05 AM by LSBK


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