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Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#8251: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:42:59 PM

/pops back and examines the previous scene

Oh, huh. I was wrong; it was a flashback. And one that's clearly intended to take place before Mirio caught up, at that- that was tagged 'right after the raid began' whereas this one's 'two minutes after Mirio split from the group'. So that's fairly unambiguous.

I still Mirio's kind of fucked, though- placing this in flashback basically means there's time for this situation to completely resolve itself before anyone else shows up, which is not good news, given how unlikely it is for Mirio to successfully solo this.

"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#8252: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:44:22 PM

[up]True, regardless of when this takes place him beating them and saving Eri isn't exactly likely to go smoothly.

edited 17th Aug '17 6:44:35 PM by LSBK

Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#8253: Aug 17th 2017 at 7:06:54 PM

Other things:

  • We're meant to understand that Overhaul's apology for killing Magne is insincere from the fact that he misgenders her- he didn't care enough about the person he claims to regret killing to know basic facts about her. That's a nice touch.
  • Further evidence that Overhaul has no fucking idea how use minions effectively: the expendable with the lie detection ability. That's extremely useful for somebody in Overhaul's line of work. Throwing somebody with a quirk like that into battle as disposable cannon fodder is a total waste. That's true even if it somehow turns out to have battle applications- that's the kind of ability you don't risk if you can avoid it.
    • Meanwhile, Shiragaki straight up refused to commit Blackmist to this fight, because he's too valuable to put into the hands of an uncertain ally.
  • Mirio's not gonna take down Overhaul, but if he manages to take Chrono and/or the last two expendables out of the fight, it's a victory. That would mean that Deku's group isn't going to lose anyone else important on the way there, and Quirk erasure + future sight + super strength is enough to take down Overhaul with ease.

edited 17th Aug '17 7:07:35 PM by Gilphon

"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#8254: Aug 17th 2017 at 7:42:34 PM

Man, it's like Mirio is trying to trigger as many Death Flags as possible. I don't have much to add that everybody else hasn't already noted. I do like the note on Magne's gender, although I was a little on clear on exactly what their deal was to start with, so it took me a second to process what was going on. Yeah, Overhaul is a douche who obviously doesn't care much about his minions or know how to use them efficiently.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#8255: Aug 17th 2017 at 7:51:16 PM

Little thing I was thinking about, we know that Magne's Quirk polarized men and women oppositely (I forget exactly which is which) and that she couldn't do it to herself. So now I'm wondering was that just standard "some power's just don't work on the user themselves" or if it was because confusion from being biologically male, but gender identifying as female, and if it would work on other trans people.

edited 17th Aug '17 8:34:31 PM by LSBK

Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#8256: Aug 17th 2017 at 8:32:19 PM

/goes back and re-reads the sequence where AFO uses forced activation on Magne

Oh, thank god, AFO didn't break 'can't be used on self' rule there note , so we don't know if it would've registered Magne as a man or a woman. That would've been a can of worms.

"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#8257: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:11:00 PM

Also, there is no "should I pass One For All to him" conflict. Izuku himself hasn't thought that at all.
I mean, it seems a bit silly to bring up Night Eye talking about how Mirio's the rightful successor and he'll never accept Deku if the very next arc is going to invalidate it by removing the alternate successor from the picture. (And I called it a thread, not a conflict, for the record.)

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#8258: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:12:24 PM

Well, on that point I agree. Sorry for the mixup.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8259: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:13:44 PM

If it's going to come up at all, it won't be until or unless Mirio is rendered unable to be a hero otherwise. The links are there, Nighteye feeling Deku is an unworthy successor and thinking Mirio is better suited, the knowledge that One For All can only be passed on willingly, the revelation of drugs/bullets that can potentially destroy someone's quirk forever, and as of this week someone armed with those bullets face to face with Mirio.

edited 17th Aug '17 9:15:36 PM by sgamer82

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#8260: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:17:09 PM

I mean, Nighteye can be convinced that Izuku is worthy either way, Mirio doesn't really have to factor into that part. Him thinking that Mirio is better and thinking Izuku isn't worthy are two separate things.

Nighteye would most likely still think that Izuku was a bad pick even if he had never met Mirio.

edited 17th Aug '17 9:18:24 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#8261: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:20:22 PM

Huh that would lead to some cool stuff.

Mirio becomes depowered & is offered by Nighteye the possibility of gaining OFA from Deku. Mirio then denies it both out of respect for Deku seeing him as a worthy successor on his own & choosing to instead continue to embark on the path of the hero in any way he can Quirk or no Quirk.

He then gives some advice to Deku, telling him to continue on the path he is on & that he is just as good a candidate as him.

edited 17th Aug '17 9:21:19 PM by slimcoder

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8262: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:20:35 PM

[up][up] Doesn't mean any of those links aren't still there. Nighteye's belief, at the very least, is having an affect on Deku himself and is liable to factor in to any decisions he makes re: One For All

edited 17th Aug '17 9:20:41 PM by sgamer82

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#8263: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:22:22 PM

I'm not really sure it is though. I don't think Izuku is doubting himself anymore, at this point even if he's not a worthy successor he intends on making himself such because All Might believes in him. That resolve hasn't changed as far as I can tell.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#8264: Aug 17th 2017 at 9:25:00 PM

[up] Perhaps not now, but I don't think any thoughts in this train of thought are going to come up at all until or unless Mirio is endangered.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#8265: Aug 17th 2017 at 10:32:44 PM

Man this arc is gonna be really epic when it gets animated.

Even if that's years off from now, it will definitely be worth the wait.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#8266: Aug 18th 2017 at 12:40:17 AM

This is like the most politically correct shonen manga ever. Not only we have three trans characters, one of them good guy, one bad guy, and one background character with only 1 line, their teammates actually care about their gender identities, too.

Then there's Toga being bi and Bakugou possibly asexual.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
Elfive Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#8268: Aug 18th 2017 at 5:52:22 AM

Tiger, Magne and that person who appeared in Magne's flashback.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#8269: Aug 18th 2017 at 6:33:55 AM

AFO didn't break 'can't be used on self' rule there

What was this one?

edited 18th Aug '17 6:34:03 AM by Ninety

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#8270: Aug 18th 2017 at 7:35:19 AM

Magne's quirk can't be applied to herself, which is good, because it doesn't raise the question of "would the quirk register Magne as male or female?"

fillerdude from Inside Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#8271: Aug 18th 2017 at 8:16:52 AM

I don't see a problem with that? Like the quirk can just apply to biological sex, no identifying needed.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#8273: Aug 18th 2017 at 8:48:55 AM

So I wonder if there are still some Anti-quirk sentiments among the people?

Think about it: there have to be guys like Deku, who are still born without them right? And I expect that like him, they were bullied by those who did have quirks.

It's obviously not at X Men levels of ridiculousness (where things have actually gotten worse instead of better due to Marvel's mindless determination to stick to the world that hates and fears us thing), but I've been wondering if it will be a thing. Horokishi seems to have a much more optimistic view of the scenario (and superheroes as a whole) than the old house of ideas, so maybe it's not something we're ever gonna hear about, but considering stuff like Stain and the acknowledgement of the imperfection of the system, I could see it becoming a potential issue sometime in the future.

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Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#8274: Aug 18th 2017 at 8:53:31 AM

I could see this happening as backstory from the previous generations, when there was a much bigger quirkless population, but the story already established every generation is getting less and less quirkless people, so I think a mobilization at this point wouldn't enough to be a big deal.

IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#8275: Aug 18th 2017 at 9:24:48 AM

Magne fought Tiger at one point, but you couldn't really tell what effect her quirk had on him.

There are a few background details that suggest that there's some quirk-based prejudice, like the newscaster who got in trouble with "Quirk Rights Groups," the one punk in Illegals talking about how he feels unaccepted because of his scary quirk, or what's-his-name that thought he couldn't be a hero because of his "villainous" quirk.


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