Eastern European Politics

Article 7 of the treaty of European Union allows some rights of a member state to be suspended. It requires uninamious vote form all other member.

Edited by DeadlyAssassin on Dec 15th 2023 at 7:54:41 PM

Which is why they couldn't apply it to two renitent members mutually covering each other.

Even NATO cannot make countries spend how much they are supposed to on defense, for example.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67725570

BBC article on why Orban's got an ax to grind against Kyiv.

Basically, he sees Ukraine as a buffer state between Russia and the rest of Europe.

And that makes him want to let Russia conquer Ukraine because...?

He's indifferent.

Edited by Ominae on Dec 15th 2023 at 8:38:58 AM

I just don't understand how "Wants Ukraine to be a buffer state between Russia and Europe" and "Let Russia conquer Ukraine" can even work together. Wouldn't a buffer state be... Y'know, a state?

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he was actually hoping for Putin to give him a slice of the pie (namely Transcarpathia) if he managed to beat Ukraine.

The Hungarian right has still not gotten over Trianon.

Of course, as the article points out, Orban's attitude towards the Hungarian-populated areas has started to make things difficult for said people because turns out if some neighbouring country is using you as justification for their irredentist bullshit, your compatriots do start getting suspicious.

Nationalist autocrats like Putin and Orban are basically turning back the clock to a Europe where ethnic minorities are viewed as potential fifth columnists, something that's incredibly depressing to me.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Dec 15th 2023 at 5:51:32 PM

Note that Orban also dismissd Ukrainian reforms to ensure minority language rights aside from Ukrainian (and maybe Russian, don't know) are not touched.

And someone from Orban's party is calling the war in Ukraine as an "inter-Slav civil war".

Edited by Ominae on Dec 15th 2023 at 8:57:07 AM

...So Orban hopes that Ukraine collapses so he can call himself "Admiral," huh?

10 people dead after Mass Shooting in Czech' Capital Prague

https://apnews.com/article/prague-shooting-dead-injured-9a383bc6919c1b0d929cf06aa4818341

Protests in Belgrade over suggestions that Vucic approved of rigging the elections.

Berlin “raised” the concerns since protestors were reportedly trying to besiege the local city hall there.

https://apnews.com/article/lukashenko-belarus-immunity-presidential-election-opposition-b699c252baa2f6f235d06f027d1d6b87

Luka gave himself immunity and signed laws to prevent opposition politicians living outside Belarus from joining the elections in 2025.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/191x21o/the_consequences_of_putin_conquering_ukraine/

Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski has an interview with Amanpour, who said that letting Putin take over Ukraine is a catastrophe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/196g811/more_russian_meddling_in_europe_serbian_soldiers/

A masked Serbian soldier in Eastern Ukraine is calling for action in Kosovo take out the NATO occupiers.

It's been some months since the new coalition took over the government. Some things have been made. Some haven't, because the previous gov is going out of its way to go as scorched earth as possible. Unfortunately, they still have their own patsy President, and the system requires that any prospective projects and laws are okayed by him. We'll have to deal with him until 2025.

The new gov attempted to retake the public media, whom PIS previously turned into propaganda channels. The results have been mixed: it's my understanding that the way the new gov went about it was unlawful. PIS decided to occupy the locations of TV, Radio, and PAP (Polska Agencja Prasowa, which handles paper media) - unfortunately, they couldn't help themselves not bringing in some of their fascist muscle.

The more recent issue concerns two of PIS's more relevant ghouls: Mariusz Kamiński and Maciej Wąsik. A quick summary: In 2006, during PIS's first taste of power, CBA (Anti-Corruption Bureau) was established to do what its name would imply. The two aforementioned went about it the way fascist parties go about it: by fabricating evidence and hounding people they wanted hounded rather than people who might have actually been corrupt. In that case, their most relevant action was the hounding of the late Andrzej Lepper, one of their at-the-time coalition partners.

The two were judged and sentenced before 2015, though the sentence wasn't in effect yet. In comes Andrzej Duda, the fascist patsy president, who goes out of his way to pardon the two. Keep in mind, there was nothing to pardon them for yet, as the sentence wasn't in effect. PIS assumed full control of the country apparatus and went about its way. Now, the two were properly sentenced and delivered to justice. PIS went apeshit about it, calling them "political prisoners" and comparing the new gov to the usual dictatorial suspects.

The actual suspects did not deem to have any grace about their sentence, continuing to attend the Sejm meetings and even going as far as to hide in the Presidential Palace. The police was able to extricate them from there when the President wasn't there. For added irony, the President was seeing Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya at the time, best known for being a wife of a Belarusian political activist who is an actual political prisoner held in confinement.

PIS made a big hooplah about it, gathered about 50k brainwashed drones screaming about how they won't let "a German" to rule us in front of Sejm as the so-called "Protest of Free Poles", and the President decided to pardon the two ghouls. Again. This time it's not a one-and-done decision; rather the plan seems to be to shift the responsibility to a new Justice Minister, who I understand isn't interested in playing along. Currently PIS is hell-bent on disrupting governmental proceedings in any way possible, and short of drastic action I'm not sure what can be done to stop them.

Edited by FergardStratoavis on Jan 16th 2024 at 9:06:03 PM

Slovak PM Robert Fico says Ukraine is not a sovereign country.

1. Fico claims that Ukraine isn't a sovereign country and a US puppet.

2. He will tell Ukrainian PM Denis Shymal that he opposes Ukrainian membership into NATO and will cease distribution of Slovakian equipment to Ukraine.

3. He thinks getting Ukraine into NATO will cause World War III and that he calls Ukraine a corrupt country because the aid already given to it disappears.

In other words, he's trying to suck up to Putin.

You know, I don't think the leader of Slovakia should ask other countries to give up territory to a neighbour who's once controlled it in the past.

Though it was pointed out in the article I linked in that Slovakia didn't even oppose the EU aid package for Ukraine (which Orban did). Why?

Edited by HallowHawk on Jan 21st 2024 at 2:57:31 AM

Or anybody else really. Historically, territory changed hands a lot. So when someone says, "Nation X should own Y because they controlled it in the past". It invites the question of who should be giving up territory to whom. Should half of Europe give up their nations and reunify as a New Roman Empire ? Sure, that is absurd, but that is the point. Depending on how you define "in the past" you can justify just about anything with it.

We already have that, it's called the European Union.

Italy's seriously lacking in power there though.

Man, someone needs to do something about Fico...

You know, between the Sudetenland Crisis and Prague Spring, Slovakia is really one of the last countries that should be trying to suck up to Russia trying to both influence a neighbor and take territory because it was theirs with their race

Edited by jdeo1997 on Jan 21st 2024 at 7:01:47 AM