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Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#3026: Jan 10th 2018 at 7:29:35 PM

The South Korean government actually said that after consideration it will not ask for a revision of the agreement, citing that it cannot deny the fact that it was a bilateral agreement.

Moon Jae-in's recent address speech had a conciliatory tone wanting greater cooperation and wishing for a more compassionate stance from Japan.

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#3027: Jan 10th 2018 at 11:37:28 PM

[up] Mr. Moon has been way more polite than he should dealing with a country that is attempting to deny history and the horrible tales of the comfort women.

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TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#3028: Jan 10th 2018 at 11:48:16 PM

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The entire colonization of Korea by Japan was brutal enough that on a face-to-face level, Koreans and Japanese still harbor some actual bitterness towards each other.

Even the mainland Chinese agree that they've largely accepted Japanese as a people today, although (justifiably) the simmering grudge remains.

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#3029: Jan 11th 2018 at 5:19:38 PM

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/philippines-duterte-hands-off-comfort-women-statue-dispute-130023335.html

In relation to that, Duterte issued a "no comment" answer in the wake of the controversy regarding the statues.

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#3030: Jan 14th 2018 at 5:39:17 AM

Although it's not exactly related to a direct event, this article by Prof. Rana Mitter, one of the best historians of the Second Sino-Japanese War, is very interesting.

It centers around Japanese rule in Taiwan, which today causes a lot of arguments between the DPP and KMT, especially in the differences between Japanese and KMT rule.

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#3031: Jan 14th 2018 at 5:44:00 AM

[up] My own grandma is old enough to remember a bit of that time. She's got...mixed feelings, to put it lightly. It's probably not for nothing that she's refused to even visit Japan for vacations whenever the rest of the family extended invites. Nowadays of course it's because she's at the age where she doesn't want to go on long plane rides (and even that's not much of an excuse since Taiwan to Japan isn't that long).

edited 14th Jan '18 5:45:06 AM by M84

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TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#3032: Jan 14th 2018 at 12:36:22 PM

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Interesting. From what you hear nowadays from DPP supporters and most elderly Taiwanese who are willing to speak, the Japanese occupation of Taiwan is thought to be largely peaceful, unlike the KMT's iron-fisted authoritarianism during their early years in Taiwan.

Of course, it was peaceful...for the Hoklo. For the aborigines, it was a different story, involving typical IJA brutality.

edited 14th Jan '18 12:40:22 PM by TheWildWestPyro

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#3033: Jan 14th 2018 at 12:57:56 PM

There's a single glaring difference between the treatment of Taiwanese Hans and aborigines under the Japanese and Chinese Nationalists.

A relative phrased it at a family reunion in the best way I know possible:

"It is true that the Japanese saw themselves as superior and us inferior. A Japanese school teacher would be paid more than a non-Japanese one [said relative was a school teacher during the Japanese era]. However, they considered themselves to be superior to us while also accepting the fact that they had to accept us as their subjects and allow us to be productive and happy subjects of the Empire. If that meant allowing us to speak our native languages in the streets and giving us our own local councils, so be it.

"The Kuomintang on the other hand, saw the mainland Hans as not only superior to us Taiwanese Hans, but openly labeled us as Japanese collaborators despite the fact that we were born under Japanese rule and had no choice. There was no need to recognize and rule us to be productive and happy subjects, because the millions of mainlanders fleeing the Communists would live and work in our place. Thus, the KMT openly attempted to replace us instead of actually ruling us like the Japanese did. Thus, we were jailed, shot, massacred, and intimidated . No language but Mandarin was permitted in public. You would be beaten if a teacher heard you speak anything but it at school.

That's why us old folks speak fondly of the Japanese. Because they at least acknowledged that we were there before them while the Kuomintang tried to erase us to make Taiwan a new China."

Mitter is correct in reminding us that Japanese-ruled Taiwan was still a colonial society with a clearly defined superior and inferior peoples. However, he forgets to examine the fact that the end of World War II merely transferred rule of Taiwan from one colonial power to another with the literal intent on colonizing the island with millions of its own followers. Under the former, non-Japanese were permitted to elect their own local councils and representatives, while central authority truthfully lay with Japanese-appointed officials in Taipei. Under the latter, this pretense of parliamentary government was wholly done away with, with the Kuomintang being omniscient in all walks of life. A key cause of the 228 Incident was of Taiwanese pouring into the streets to protest the KMT's removal of the local councils.

In other aspects, the comments section to that article is ironically filled with accusations by 50 Centers that Mitter doesn't go out of his way to blast the Japanese enough:

JUDGING EMPIRES: WAS JAPANESE RULE IN TAIWAN BENEVOLENT? Is like asking whether looting, raping and murdering on a massive scale is benevolent? Maybe for Japan but certainly not for the Taiwanese. First of all, the barbaric Japanese in the initial stages of the invasion slaughtered an estimated 600,000 Taiwanese that either resisted or were innocent victims in a prelude of what was to come next like the Rape of Nanking, the Manila Massacre etc. And what followed next was the massive looting of Taiwan where Taiwanese ere robbed of their valuables and then followed subjucation, Japanesefication which happened to Lee Teng-hui and the enslavement of the population including sex slaves. This later became the Japanese barbaric modus operandi which it followed everywhere it invaded. And the Japanese leaders of today including Shino Abe are proud of Japan's barbarity by praying to war criminals at the Yasukuni War Shrine. In the end two atomic bombs showed that Japanese policies then were in no way benevolent to Japanese too

This is a nonsense title of the article and try to distort history in mind with intent. This writer is deemed not fit the job in SCMP and should be let go to his own shxxhole country. The main reason is that he ignores the crucial facts in Taiwan as some readers addressed above and misleading the readers and the truth of history. So, should someone say: did Japanese invade, slaughter, looted, killed,burned, raped all kind of people in Asia benevolent to Chinese, Americans, British, Australians...etc. ?

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#3034: Jan 14th 2018 at 1:10:13 PM

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Thanks for stepping in. Possibly the worst aspect of the White Terror was the KMT throwing teenagers as young as 16 into labor camps and not letting them out until Chiang Ching-kuo decided martial law should end. Really, it's no wonder that Chiang's statues are being taken down and his legacy is being challenged. While the KMT did plenty of good, they brought great sorrow to Taiwan.

And the White Terror showed just why the KMT is the Chinese Nationalist Party for a reason. Not that the CCP was any better, of course, with them being fanatically patriotic under Mao, crushing the Uyghurs and slaughtering the Tibetans.

I've heard that the KMT, well, treated the aborigines slightly better (although they tried to assimilate them too) via a patronage system. Also, I've read that the KMT wanted to create an ethnic bloc against the Hoklo majority to secure their power base better. As a result, most aborigines are still in favor of the KMT, although the DPP had some small successes in improving relations.

About the idiotic comments...did they not read his goddamn book on the Second Sino-Japanese War?

It's one of the best English books about the war, and pretty much codified the historical view that the KMT fought hard.

Oh well, you can't reason with wumaos and die-hard nationalists. Ugh. I don't think they'll even read the book, they'll skim it and then go back to wanking about their own superiority or dismiss the entire book as imperialist propaganda.

edited 14th Jan '18 1:19:35 PM by TheWildWestPyro

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#3035: Jan 14th 2018 at 6:15:28 PM

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20180115_05/

ICAN wants a meet with Abe over the abolition of nukes. The FM mentions that Abe can't make it, since he's in an official trip in the Baltic states.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#3036: Jan 19th 2018 at 1:07:18 AM

Talk about PM Abe's fifth year in office. Whether he'll go for the third term (probably), his defence policy (offence vs. defence) and to where we go from here.

edited 19th Jan '18 1:07:41 AM by TerminusEst

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#3037: Jan 20th 2018 at 6:19:39 AM

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20180120_12/

The JASDF mentions that their first F-35 will be based in Misawa.

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#3038: Jan 20th 2018 at 3:26:20 PM

Interesting article about an opinion on the CKS memorial hall's fate

This is interesting in that it's actually a multi-structured argument addressing various points, and links about the difference between Taiwanese of Hoklo ancestry and Taiwanese of mainland ancestry.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#3039: Jan 21st 2018 at 4:15:08 AM

With Aum trials over, Asahara and his accomplices can finally be hanged

The 20-plus years of criminal trials involving members of the now-defunct doomsday cult Aum Shinrikyo came to a close Friday as the Supreme Court upheld the life sentence of Katsuya Takahashi, who was convicted of murder in the 1995 sarin attack on the Tokyo subway system.

The Aum trials were unprecedented in Japan’s judicial history in terms of their sheer number and the length of the deliberations. The focus now shifts to when the 13 members on death row — including Aum founder Shoko Asahara, 62, whose real name is Chizuo Matsumoto — will be hanged.

Not a few ministry and prosecution sources have expressed anxiety over what will happen after the executions, saying they fear groups who have taken charge of Aum might seek revenge on the justice minister, who must sign off on each one. There are also other unresolved issues, such as who will deal with their bodies.

Public security officials say there is a possibility that Asahara could be deified by remnants of the cult. Three groups have taken over Aum — their ranks number 1,650 and they collectively have ¥1 billion in assets, the officials said.

edited 21st Jan '18 4:16:07 AM by TerminusEst

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Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3040: Jan 22nd 2018 at 8:44:56 PM

That'll be interesting.


https://ph.yahoo.com/news/anger-over-second-snatching-bookseller-china-033635689.html

One of the Hong Kong-based booksellers has been snatched again, this time in front of Swedish diplomatic personnel.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#3041: Jan 29th 2018 at 5:13:17 PM

Last week there was a hospital fire in South Korea that killed 39, and injured over 150. Most of the dead were elderly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Miryang_hospital_fire

Cause is presumably still under investigation.

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#3042: Feb 4th 2018 at 1:04:37 AM

A very detailed op-ed about China's egregiously Orwellian control over Xinjiang's Uyghurs, written by an expert in the topic.

Use incognito mode to read.

edited 4th Feb '18 1:05:06 AM by TheWildWestPyro

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#3043: Feb 4th 2018 at 1:34:22 AM

Goes pretty well with this article: Death Solves All Problems: The Authoritarian Counterinsurgency Toolkit

How good is the authoritarian record against insurgencies, and what tools do they use to win? Their track record is better than is generally recognized — almost as good as that of democracies, in fact. Yet to win, authoritarian regimes employ a distinct toolkit that can lead to victory, but comes with many costs and limits, ranging from their inability to use much of their military power, frequent corruption, poor military learning, and the risk that authoritarians’ heavy use of repression makes it more likely that war will break out in the future should state control weaken.

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#3044: Feb 6th 2018 at 10:12:08 AM

So Taiwan just got hit with a 6.4 magnitude earthquake.

The parts of Taiwan where me and my family live are more or less okay, but the city of Hualien was not so fortunate.

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#3045: Feb 6th 2018 at 10:16:05 AM

Glad to hear that you are safe.

BBC reports that some high rises were toppled or close to it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42966916

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#3046: Feb 7th 2018 at 4:22:43 AM

EXCLUSIVE: New photos show China is nearly done with its militarization of South China Sea

Aerial photographs obtained by Inquirer.net from a source show that China is almost finished transforming seven reefs claimed by the Philippines in the Spratly archipelago into island fortresses, in a bid to dominate the heavily disputed South China Sea.

Most of the photos, taken between June and December 2017, were snapped from an altitude of 1,500 meters and they showed the reefs that had been transformed into artificial islands in the final stages of development as air and naval bases.

Shown the photographs, Eugenio Bito-onon Jr., the former mayor of Kalayaan town on Pag-asa Island, the largest Philippine-occupied island in the Spratlys and internationally known as Thitu Island, recognized new facilities on the man-made isles.

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#3047: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:25:56 AM

Seems like those of us in Taiwan are going to be feeling aftershocks for a while after an earthquake of that level. Heck, I just felt one a few minutes ago.

edited 7th Feb '18 9:41:33 AM by M84

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#3048: Feb 7th 2018 at 9:41:43 AM

Double post for a brief update:

Powerful aftershocks hit Taiwan after deadly quake

The intensity and number of foreshocks and aftershocks are unprecedented in the region, Focus Taiwan reported on Wednesday, citing Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau.

From Feb 4 to Tuesday night's 6.4-magnitude quake, 94 shocks were recorded.

Between then and 1pm on Wednesday, 150 aftershocks were recorded.

"This is unprecedented and not a normal release of energy," Chen Kuo-chang, acting director of the Central Weather Bureau's Seismology Centre told Taiwanese media.

Taiwan experiences 20 to 25 earthquakes of magnitude of 5.0 or higher each year and the sequence over the past few days has already accounted for nearly half of that number, he added.

The bureau warned of more aftershocks, adding that it does not rule out the possibility of strong quakes of magnitude 6.0 or higher.

edited 7th Feb '18 9:41:50 AM by M84

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#3049: Feb 9th 2018 at 1:15:39 AM

Another (grim) update on the Taiwan earthquake:

Hopes fading of finding more survivors in Taiwan earthquake

Hopes of finding additional survivors from this week's earthquake in Taiwan were fading Friday after two more bodies were found in a partially collapsed hotel and no signs detected of a missing family of five.

Rescuers broke through to a room in the Beauty Inn where the couple — Canadian citizens originally from Hong Kong — were found, Taiwanese broadcasters reported. No signs of life were found, they said.

The hotel, located on the lower floors of the 12-story Yunmen Tsuiti building, had almost entirely collapsed. The building itself was leaning at a 45-degree angle, forcing crews to stabilize it with steel beams.

The others missing in the hotel are five members of a family from China, including parents, grandparents and their 12-year-old son.

The Yunmen Tsuiti building was one of several damaged by the magnitude 6.4 temblor that struck Tuesday in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Hualien county, whose economy is heavily dependent on tourism.

The deaths of the couple, both 49, raises the death toll to 12, including four tourists from China and a 27-year-old Filipino employed as a household helper. Taiwan's National Fire Agency listed 273 people as injured.

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