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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#26: Jul 17th 2014 at 1:54:57 PM

t's possible. There's a LOT of ape noises, though. More than one ape should be making. So maybe his close companions found him and helped him out of the wreckage?

Yes, I saw it today, and boy did I love it. They really made Koba and his crew seem like those rebel warlords from third world countries. The kind who use child soldiers and fight like gangstas. They even held their guns like that and used spray and pray tactics. If Koba comes back as a credible threat, I really hope his army captures or observes some real soldiers and learns how to fight properly with guns.

kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
Rascal King
#27: Jul 17th 2014 at 4:03:40 PM

I hope Koba is dead, personally. He served his purpose, and had a good death scene. They should branch out with their antagonists.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#28: Jul 17th 2014 at 4:36:28 PM

Rh, either that stinger was messing with us, or I don't know what else it could possibly mean. He's the only one whose death being reversed would be relevant enough for that.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#29: Jul 17th 2014 at 4:51:47 PM

Are the makers of this series planning on remaking the original Charlton Heston "Planet of the Apes" Prime film? One would imagine they would do if they kept making films up to that point in the time-line. Thoughts?

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#30: Jul 17th 2014 at 5:34:26 PM

Aside from altering Caesar's origin, they seem to be going with the Conquest timeline mostly. Hard to say. With this prequel stuff, the only mystery they've got for us is, how did things get so bad that now the Apes rule over man?

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
kalel94 Rascal King from Dragonstone Since: Feb, 2011
Rascal King
#31: Jul 17th 2014 at 6:08:22 PM

They would need to come up with a new twist, obv.

The last hurrah? Nah, I'd do it again.
Idencar Borderline Hikikomori from Home Sweet Home Since: Mar, 2012
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#32: Jul 18th 2014 at 4:53:16 AM

I just found out that Toby Kebbell, Koba's actor, is going to be Doctor Doom in the new Fantastic Four.

Now I just can't stop imagine Koba in Doom's armor[lol]

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#33: Jul 18th 2014 at 3:10:03 PM

*points at face* RICHARDS, WORK!

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#34: Jul 18th 2014 at 7:20:35 PM

Rise seemed to be a combination of Escape and Conquest. Dawn seems to be starting a two-parter version of Battle.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#35: Jul 18th 2014 at 7:28:02 PM

So if they do run with a remake of Planet of the Apes Prime, who's gonna be Taylor?

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#36: Jul 18th 2014 at 7:33:14 PM

Considering the changed backstory, who's to say it has to be a Taylor? Are we sure the first series was a stable time loop? And even if it was, does this one have to be the same?

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#37: Jul 18th 2014 at 7:41:32 PM

Hmm, the original movies were a stable time loop initially, set in motion by Taylor's initial crash, and Caesar's mommy and daddy using his repaired space-ship to go back in time, through the same worm-hole that brought Bright Eyes to them. Things changed at that point, for instead of Aldo leading the apes to supremacy it was Caesar. There's more to it here:

http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Circular_vs_Linear_Timelines

It posits that the end of the last original Apes movie could have ended up with the apes and the humans living in harmony. I prefer that interpretation myself.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#38: Jul 18th 2014 at 7:59:33 PM

Didn't Rise mention a missing manned spacecraft?

Also, while in a chatroom discussing the Apes creating a culture of their own, someone mentioned there being some totems made of wood and animal bone. While I was looking for this, I found a picture of Maurice in front of the "Ape shall not kill Ape" wall with "Apes Together Stronger" and "Knowledge is" with the last part blocked by some chimps. What's the last word there? Does it show up in the movie? I do plan on watching the film, just curious now.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#39: Jul 18th 2014 at 8:54:55 PM

I don't remember the last word showing, but one could assume it's power just because that's our phrase. You could just as easily claim something else, I guess.

ETA: And yes, Rise mentions a missing space craft. Considering we already know the twist from the first series, they couldn't really pull a repeat of the first one's ending and expect it to hold enough of a punch. Especially since they started with the prequels this time and we're watching the Apes fight for survival and freedom.

edited 18th Jul '14 8:56:46 PM by Journeyman

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#40: Jul 19th 2014 at 5:26:25 PM

Saw the movie today. Great film, you should definitely see it if you liked the first one.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#41: Jul 19th 2014 at 5:33:49 PM

Saw it today and I loved it.

On the matter of legitimately remaking the first film; the only way I see it happening is if there's a time skip after the next film. The next film can be about the war and the bookend to Caeser's character. The fourth year will cut to many years in the future where the apes have now become a civilized society and the humans are (supposedly) extinct.

Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
Will kill you
#42: Jul 19th 2014 at 6:14:33 PM

Saw the film yesterday. Loved it.

9.5 out of 10

Mom and dad also loved it.

The cliches of end of the world survivors different types being spotted before occurring we liked being noticed before unfolding into nastier mess.

edited 19th Jul '14 6:14:56 PM by Couchpotato20

"I don't give a rat's ass about going to hell. I guess it's because I feel like I'm already there." -Mugen
LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#43: Jul 20th 2014 at 7:52:06 AM

Yeah, this is probably my third favorite film of the year (behind Captain America The Winter Soldier and Edge Of Tomorrow).

Going by the fact that this seems to be a trilogy, I'm guessing that the next film will be about the war, and how the humans lose.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#44: Jul 20th 2014 at 4:30:17 PM

I'm hoping for peaceful coexistence.

edited 20th Jul '14 4:30:22 PM by Ekuran

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#45: Jul 22nd 2014 at 6:09:23 AM

Not interested in the movie, but an ad for the local theater had an interesting take on the movie's title.

edited 22nd Jul '14 6:09:38 AM by Twentington

somerandomdude from Dark side of the moon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
#46: Jul 22nd 2014 at 1:52:07 PM

Easily the best movie of the year so far. Great villain, great hero, great conflict.

ok boomer
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#47: Jul 3rd 2015 at 7:03:45 PM

Just caught this on Netflix.

I'm very pleased that it wasn't the humans who caused things to go completely bad. True, they created Koba in the first place, but he started the fight first. That pleases me. It's incredibly sad, but that's how it goes sometimes.

That being said, Koba is a great actor. Humans didn't just teach him hate, if that stunt with the two guards is anything to go by.

It's kinda funny he even remembers how to do something like that.

One Strip! One Strip!
Spinosegnosaurus77 Mweheheh from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
Mweheheh
#48: Jul 22nd 2015 at 3:58:45 PM

Anyone want to start a thread for 2017's War of the Planet of the Apes? I'll do it if no one else wants to. We have one!

edited 22nd Jul '15 4:02:08 PM by Spinosegnosaurus77

Peace is the only battle worth waging.
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