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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#3926: Jul 23rd 2014 at 12:18:28 PM

[up]x3

Just because Pokemon from later generations were barred from the main game doesn't mean FRLG doesn't count.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#3927: Jul 23rd 2014 at 12:21:41 PM

Going by serial escalation, I'm going to assume there will be Gen 4+ monster available in the main game.

Maybe in a Sevii Island-esque area, or through some of the convoluted extra content HG/SS had.

Frishman Sinful Saint from Baton Rouge, LA Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Sinful Saint
#3928: Jul 23rd 2014 at 12:34:13 PM

[up][up][up] & [up][up][up][up]I did not realize that until just now. I'm still not partial to the design, but now I know.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#3929: Jul 23rd 2014 at 12:45:52 PM

edited 23rd Jul '14 12:46:32 PM by Lionheart0

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#3930: Jul 23rd 2014 at 12:49:32 PM

There's a General Pokemon thread, you know.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#3931: Jul 23rd 2014 at 1:06:40 PM

Unless you're talking about me pulling off three memes in a row, which I did not realize I had done until your comment made me realize it.
I was actually referring to all of those being extremely annoying things. tongue I mean, unless the opinion you're sharing is something overly specific like "am I the only one who thinks Pikachu is really hot when it's riding a bike", chances are you're not the only one. It's the internet!

But yeah, don't worry about it. I'm just jaded by entirely too many online discussions about games for children. tongue

... quick, I need a way to make this on-topic! UHM.

Some more variety would be nice, particularly for a better Ground-type before Wattson's gym, but I found the variety in XY entirely too paralyzingly overwhelming and I could already fill more than one team with mons I'd like to train in the standard RSE-dex alone, so I hope they don't exaggerate it.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#3932: Jul 23rd 2014 at 1:27:37 PM

Going by serial escalation, I'm going to assume there will be Gen 4+ monster available in the main game.
I honestly think there's simply going to be wider variety in Hoenn's wild encounters now, at least almost on-par with Kalos' variety. ORAS is looking to be a much greater departure from how RSE were built compared to the much more mild alterations made to FRLG and HGSS.

I sure said that!
IndoorSurvival Hyuhn?! from Where the sun shines brightest Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Hyuhn?!
#3933: Jul 23rd 2014 at 1:43:21 PM

I hope they put Sandile and Shellos before Wattson. Maybe Tympole and Wooper, too. Just some Ground and Water options to tide players over until Surf or the fishing rod arrives. If the Old Rod works like in XY, variety won't be as much of a problem. It was always annoying how a whole key item was devoted to finding Magikarp.

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#3934: Jul 23rd 2014 at 1:52:43 PM

I would be completely fine with them adding Ground types before Wattson. Geodude is the only one that you could have by then, so Wattson usually gives me trouble when I'm using Treecko, and sometimes Torchic.

ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#3935: Jul 23rd 2014 at 3:56:24 PM

[up][up]To be fair, in Gen III the Old Rod was a rough split between Magikarp, and a common water type found in that area.

Ocean water would give Tentacool, stream water would give Goldeen, Sootopolis city would give nothing but Magikarp, but the levels of Magikarp you could catch were much higher than anywhere else you could get them.

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.
BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#3936: Jul 23rd 2014 at 5:48:29 PM

There's a General Pokemon thread, you know.
And half those nicknames were terrible. Gengar isn't an Evil Stitch; it's a Satan Wario!

but I found the variety in XY entirely too paralyzingly overwhelming and I could already fill more than one team with mons I'd like to train in the standard RSE-dex alone,
Heh, I'm trying Crystal for the first time right now, and already I'm overwhelmed due to my compulsion to catch everything and train them all evenly. The "times of day" system means any area could contain triple the usual amount of new Pokemon, but after the first few areas I'm starting to find the other two times of day contain a lot of repeats, so I end up waiting a whole day just to catch one new thing. So I can see why Generation 3 got rid of that... But then they complicated the whole berry tree system for the sake of versatility, I understand? These ones don't disappear, so I guess they started as a "Come back and play every day" incentive, and then they wanted to give you the ability to move them where you wanted, so trees started disappearing after giving you two berries, with the hope that you would replant one. I hope I got that right.

edited 23rd Jul '14 5:58:17 PM by BagofMagicFood

CL Since: Apr, 2014
#3937: Jul 23rd 2014 at 6:42:38 PM

That is a perfectly sensible Fire/Psychic design decision.

People would probably complain that it looks like Kyubimon.

YamiiDenryuu doot from You know, that place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
doot
#3938: Jul 23rd 2014 at 7:46:06 PM

Nah, I don't like that design. Too much junk around the neck, not enough being a freaking wizard.

edited 23rd Jul '14 7:46:15 PM by YamiiDenryuu

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BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#3939: Jul 23rd 2014 at 8:24:15 PM

Ya gotta put on all yer life preservers so ya don't drown.

YamiiDenryuu doot from You know, that place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
doot
#3940: Jul 23rd 2014 at 8:55:18 PM

Of course, since it's a fire type if it's in the water it's already screwed anyway, so...

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#3941: Jul 24th 2014 at 12:02:27 AM

Not a fan of that design, either. It's... obvious, which does little to make it interesting. Evidently an unexpected turn in its evolution irritates some people, but I'd much rather have a big-eared fox inexplicably turn into a wizard fox than just have a fox that is also Psychic because it's a mystical fox and that's that.

Now that I think about it, that's probably the main thing that bothers me about a lot of Pokemon Sage designs. Lots of mons that are just "animal with special property X" rather than showing an escalating progression of two combined dissimilar design aspects that make a surprising amount of sense together. I mean, "animal with special property X" is also a combination, but... hmmm. I'll have to think about what makes these different. That's actually interesting. I think the progression is probably a big part of it. When the two elements are already combined to the utmost degree in the first stage and further stages are just "that but bigger", it's not very satisfying.

I hope any Mega-Evolutions they introduce in these games (SEE, THIS POST IS ON-TOPIC!) keep that in mind. There aren't a lot of Megas so far that don't just add big mean stuff to the existing mon. Kangaskhan, Ampharos... and I guess the bugs, too, all show an actual progression of the concept rather than just a progression in strength.

KrisiChiki Fluffy from under a pile of Fennekin Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Fluffy
#3942: Jul 24th 2014 at 2:20:24 AM

More variety in Pokemon would be good. I'm hoping they'll have some nice fire types available. If I recall correctly there weren't a lot of fire types to choose from in R/S (E too?) if you didn't pick Torchic as your starter.

Kiefen MINE! from Germany Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
MINE!
#3943: Jul 24th 2014 at 2:23:34 AM

There is pretty much just the Camperupt line + Torkoal , both avaiable past Gym 3.

Strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#3944: Jul 24th 2014 at 2:28:55 AM

Slugma and Vulpix are also available.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#3945: Jul 24th 2014 at 2:39:55 AM

Nevertheless, Fire types are nearly as rare in Hoenn as they are in Sinnoh. Everyone remember how Flint had to be an all-rounder since the fully evolved Fire list literally was just Infernape, a starter Pokemon that thus had very limited availability, and Rapidash?

I sure said that!
Frishman Sinful Saint from Baton Rouge, LA Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Sinful Saint
#3946: Jul 24th 2014 at 3:34:38 AM

@Fawriel: my sincere apologies for annoying you.

@Everyone complaining about the Kyubimon-Fennekin design: How about this then? Still a motherfucking sorcerer, still got the ear hair, still standing, doesn't appear to be wearing a dress and somehow gives the impression that I can't get rid of it by turning my garden hose on it.

And yes, more Ground and Fire Types in Hoenn, please. Oh, hello Primal Groudon!

edited 24th Jul '14 3:43:47 AM by Frishman

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#3947: Jul 24th 2014 at 4:04:35 AM

I wouldn't mind if they added Houndour/Houndoom. I always liked their designs for some reason.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#3948: Jul 24th 2014 at 4:18:29 AM

At the very least, I'm expecting a healthy number of the current Mega Evolving Pokemon to be introduced.

I sure said that!
strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#3949: Jul 24th 2014 at 4:41:56 AM

If nothing else, I expect those Johto mons from the extra Safari Zone area in Emerald to appear, either there or throughout the region.

Frishman Sinful Saint from Baton Rouge, LA Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Sinful Saint
#3950: Jul 24th 2014 at 4:45:59 AM

So I may have missed it but is there any word on how Primal Reversion works? Is it only for the Legendaries or might we see a Primal Primeape?

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