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This thread is about Russia and any events, political or otherwise, that are or might be worth discussing.

Any news, links or posts pertaining to the situation involving Russia, Crimea and Ukraine must be put in the 'Crisis in Ukraine' thread.

Group of deputies wants Gorbachev investigated over Soviet break-up.

Above in the Guardian version.

Putin's war against Russia's last independent TV channel.

No discussion regarding nuclear war. As nuclear weapons are not being used by either side, nuclear war is off-topic.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 11:26:10 AM

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#726: Jun 25th 2014 at 8:34:54 PM

Eh, it's not all like that. Uralvagonzavod and Sukhoi are doing fine. Some of the shipyards have been revitalized too. But there are still a few factories that haven't yet been able to make a good transition and they'll go. I just hope the plant gets repurposed, unlike what happened to the Moskvitch factory. Still there. In Moscow. In ruins.

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#727: Jun 25th 2014 at 8:35:48 PM

Few things make me sadder than a disused factory, I hope they figure something out.

Oh really when?
HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#728: Jun 26th 2014 at 2:05:45 AM

How exactly are women's rights in The New Russia right now?

chi_mangetsu Not a Tree from brink of the universe Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#730: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:32:06 AM

[up]Or, hey: why should women be forced to not smoke under the age of 40 and not men? They get to be in the same rooms as children and pregnant women, too...

And, good luck with the swear jar, there, guys. <_< Russia without swearing? Never going to happen. You may's well try banning vodka production.

edited 27th Jun '14 6:32:30 AM by Euodiachloris

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Never Trust
#732: Jun 27th 2014 at 6:58:07 AM

[up][up]Didn't Gorbachev try an anti-drinking campaign? As I recall it failed miserably.

Trump delenda est
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#733: Jul 8th 2014 at 4:34:22 PM

Russia accuses U.S. Secret Service of kidnapping an alleged hacker.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#734: Jul 15th 2014 at 11:19:25 AM

Bumping this, since my local news are talking about an accident in the Moscow Metro with 21 fatalities right now. Probably not terrorist in nature, I've heard.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#735: Jul 15th 2014 at 1:07:54 PM

Yeah, apparently they are blaming it on a power surge. 21 are confirmed dead, with many more injured.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28306458

Looks like an accident or failed maintenance.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#738: Jul 17th 2014 at 4:38:23 AM

Well there goes any chance of the embargo on Cuba being lifted, Putin really is going into Cold War 2 mode.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#739: Jul 17th 2014 at 6:38:22 AM

[up]So is the US government. Both sides have been doing stupid shit.

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#740: Jul 22nd 2014 at 1:29:59 PM

I thought this was extrordinarily funny.

Russians are quite keen on Sherlock. They did a rather good TV series on him during Soviet times, with Riga doubling for London.

"The Queen named me the best Holmes on the planet!"

"She made Elton John a knight..."

edited 22nd Jul '14 1:38:38 PM by Achaemenid

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#741: Jul 22nd 2014 at 4:33:24 PM

Russia proposes new "Solidarity Tax" to support Crimean annexation expenses.

Soak the rich is an interesting strategy given the prevalence of the oligarch's as Putin's support base. Maybe this is a sign that they really are moving in a more properly populist-nationalist direction.

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#742: Jul 24th 2014 at 1:46:56 PM

Dasvidanya Rodina...

Disenchanted with Putin, some Russians vote with their feet.

Looks like the some of those despised intellectuals are quitting Russia for pastures new.

Most of Vladimir Paley's clients want him to dig up their family history with one goal in mind: making a case to obtain foreign citizenship and leave Russia.

Six months ago the soft-spoken genealogist had few such requests, but this month he hired an assistant to help him with the flow of would-be émigrés.

[...]

The "disillusioned emigrants" is how prominent journalist Leonid Bershidsky described himself and others who have left.

Like many, his hopes for modernising reforms were galvanised by Putin's choice of Dmitry Medvedev - a technically savvy lawyer who wooed urban intellectuals - to replace him when constitutional limits barred him from a third consecutive term. Putin's return to the Kremlin, and the ascendancy of spy and security agency veterans in his entourage who are driving what the opposition sees as a Soviet-style clamp down on dissent, has brought disillusionment for some and disempowered them.

"I was not a rat who jumped ship at the first sign of trouble," Bershidsky wrote in an op-ed from Germany. "I am more a sailor who, seeing that the captain had changed course toward a port of ill repute ... lowered the lifeboat and began rowing."

Oh dear. On one hand, I don't blame people for wanting to get out of Putin's Russia while they still can...on the other, these are precisely the people Russia needs right now.

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#744: Jul 28th 2014 at 10:45:19 AM

RUSSIA DECLARES WAR ON FREEDOM ITSELF.

It looks like Kremlin officials had their Big Mac extra value meal order screwed up one too many times.

Apparently operating on the logic "Americansky Bad, Shirtless Poot-Poot Good,"* Russia's Consumer Protection Agency the Rospotrebnadzor, which serves to protect innocent Russians from such dangers as the gay virus, is pushing to make almost the entire McDonald's menu illegal in the country. Salads, cheeseburgers, "Royal" burgers (apparently just a regular McDonald's burger with cucumber, LTO, ketchup, mustard, AND mayo on it), Chickenburgers, Filet O Fish (OK, I'm actually with them on this one), milkshakes, and any ice cream dessert with fruit on it have all fallen under the critical eye of the Rochambeauashddhasuifhlasov — although Big Macs are OK, still? Who saw that one coming?!

Dangerous game, Ivan. Fucking with our freedom fries is only a step away from fucking with our hydrocarbons. And you don't want to fuck with our hydrocarbons.

tongue

edited 28th Jul '14 10:45:47 AM by Achaemenid

Schild und Schwert der Partei
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#745: Jul 28th 2014 at 11:05:58 AM

Are we getting back to the old days where brave smugglers risked their lives trying to get Mc Doubles past the wall?

Oh really when?
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#746: Jul 29th 2014 at 1:16:21 PM

Doublepost, sorry but a friend of mine linked me this.

Russia violated cold war treaties with Iskander tests

Joking aside, can we say that the Cold War is back on again?

Oh really when?
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#748: Aug 4th 2014 at 12:55:53 PM

That's surely a grand vision. Make sure that you don't run into an amplified version of the EU's current problems though - I get the feeling that the Kremlin will be even less adept at handling them.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#749: Aug 4th 2014 at 1:45:19 PM

I've noticed a lot of articles leave out the second half of Putin's Soviet Union quote...

But yeah, they'd have problems. Not the same problems (that of integration like with the EU) but problems of the actual economic system.

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#750: Aug 4th 2014 at 2:07:49 PM

This is the quote in full,

"Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama. Tens of millions of our co-citizens and compatriots found themselves outside Russian territory. Moreover, the epidemic of disintegration infected Russia itself."

I'm not sure what's missing...

Unless you've got your quotes mixed up and thought the article was referring to the "Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain." quote. In which case you've got the wrong quote.

edited 4th Aug '14 2:08:20 PM by Silasw

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran

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