Anime/No Game No Life

Doubt it. And Madhouse ain't notorious for airing second seasons as well.

Hope it does, though.

So I just saw this anime. Its unfortunate that, from what I can see, its probably finished. But I've really been thinking about the unwritten rules I've noticed.

They seem to allow you to bet things you couldn't realistically pull off, like commands. Making someone else follow a set of actions that they probably couldn't force themselves into, like falling in love or just something beyond your intelligence or patience. What can't be bet? The rules for games and games in general also have some oddities, like the chess game, and cheating in general. What qualifies as 'proof'? Thats never actually shown except in examples of when cheating is going on and you can't prove it.

Also there are rules outside the pledges when the pledges are supposed to be absolute. The pledges don't say you can turn down a game or not, or that you have to say Ascente before pledge rules apply. The pledges say you can bet anything but everyone seems to assume you have to own what you are betting, but not everyone is really in control of their emotions enough to bet them.

I would assume that it works similar to Death Note, meaning that anything physically possible would be done. What Steph bet was her free will and control over her body, and losing them means Sora could control her, whether she wants to or not. She doesn't have to force herself to love him, because Sora could control her the same way a guy with mental powers can brainwash someone. On the other hand, I can't make her fly, but she would still flap her hands trying to do so.

Also, it's pretty obvious one can only bet something they own, because that's the entire point of gambling. I can't go around betting a random millionaire's money for my profit.

Basically the system runs on common sense.

Stephan Reiken, if you want context for how the rules came about and why certain traditions (such as saying Aschente) came about, either read volume 6 of the light novels or watch the movie.

I might just do that, I got the Overlord light novels on my phone from Amazon, saw No Game No Life on the storefront too.

I was thinking less about property you don't own, betting someone else's money, and more on emotions and erasing memories and the like. They can't play a game without the stuff to do it, an elf to play with aspects of your existence, but the bets can require magical effects placed by the power of the pledges, even when none involved have magic.

Pledges are enforced by God. Whether they have magic or not is not important.

I think a good way of looking at it is that in Disboard, the pledges are literally built into the laws of physics. The universe itself bends over backwards to ensure that the Laws aren't broken.

But you don't own the powers of God so why can you bet with them? That is the point, you don't have full control of your body. While it makes sense that the pledges might force you to do something you could do ie hard labor to your limits, if you can't actually do it (fall in love at command) its no different than betting something you don't have. Rather the game shouldn't start because the bet was invalid, (or Sora's command would be rejected only allowing a command that is physically possible by the target). Could you bet your Age or Youth? Could you try to force a Flugel to bet their spirit circuits? If you could do that, own their spirit circuits for forced transfer, could Sora transfer Jibril's spirit circuits by citing the pledge alone at any time?

Its a minor point I just had to let go while watching. Its not that big a deal but noteworthy.

I was also considering how Jibril 'used' to be a member of a Flugel council and how.. if the title was 'lost' when she became his, depending on the structure of the government, Sora could literally inject himself into the government by claiming the title, since he owns her and her title is therefore his, and rely on refusing this claim is no different than stealing the title which isn't allowed by first pledge. The novels probably have more detail on her history.

God enforces the rules along with the rest of the ten pledges. For example, when I lose at a casino, what actually force me to give up my money? What forces the casino to give me money when I win? Replace your answer here with an omnipotent deity. If an immortal person bet his immortality, then it will be taken by God and given to the winner, regardless of his ability to give it up. You can't make yourself fall in love, but as long you have the capability to love someone, then you can bet that. If I can make someone do hard labor against their will, thus controlling their muscles, then I can make them fall in love, by controlling their brain.

Is it ever mentioned how Sora and Shiro could live in the real world with their lifestyle? The cost of living to maintain it would be more than an average job, it never specifies how they got income to cover their costs in the anime

I assume their parents pay for it. It's kind of a standard thing in anime. If the protagonist is a NEET (Not in Education, Employment or Training), their parents are probably funding it.

There's a tiny bit of hinting that at least one of the parents (because they kind of imply it's a blended family) has a lot of money, from the flashback showing when they met each other.

edited 11th Sep '17 6:13:05 AM by Zendervai

I'd like to say that i liked the 6th novel better than the others. Without spoiling :p I'd say it's the shift in tone.

Im assuming that's what the Zero movie was?

Because talk about grim and apocalyptic

Watched the movie today and it has revitalized my interest

It was pretty good yea, met my expectations ^^.

Its unfortunate its only showing for two days and one of those days is dubbed. The theater I was at was nearly sold out.

Dis'board.

edited 9th Oct '17 10:56:48 AM by Soble

Was that a motherfucking Persona reference?

Reviving this: Just watched the movie (subbed), and it was great. Not perfect, but I liked it a lot - I'll admit that there were points where the animation / voice acting / music just all lined up perfectly and I had to wipe my eyes, and it's been a really long while since a movie's gotten an emotional response out of me.

Am currently doing a live read of the No Game No Life novels here. I've watched the anime, and intend to compare the two were possible. Please check it out.

Yeah. I will admit that it was very well done on that front. I had read the relevant light novel volume beforehand and went it with my eyes wide open and with full knowledge of what was to come. And it still got me a little teary-eyed.