General Kingdom Hearts Fanfiction Thread

Oh, that clarifies a lot of things.

I originally thought you were saying that the story would start around where the events of 3D (as in dream drop distance) started, as opposed to the main story starting where KH III would start off.

Also I have not seen that video/scene until now (mostly to avoid possible spoiler stuff).

Don't really know how to elaborate on stuff. Sometimes I like when things go downhill/when there's cruelty and stuff, though it sorta depends on how I feel about whoever's affected. Even if I do sympathize/relate with characters, it still feels interesting to watch/see how things affect stuff. It sorta depends on how things are executed.

Ah, okay.

I suppose I was wondering if you had any specific thoughts about the scenario I proposed, though.

Anyway, I have another question - should I have Xehanort appear as Terranort or as Master Xehanort? Having him be an old man again is part of a plot I want to do, but I think I can still do it with Terranort.

I suppose my major question is why Xehanort appeared in 3D as Master Xehanort. I can say that that body was the one that reformed, but I'm not entirely sure why that would be the case. A simpler (well, relatively speaking) explanation was that it was his heart that appeared, manifesting that appearance. A bit convoluted, but it'd also explain why all of the hooded individuals look exactly the same (and in my fic, they normally wouldn't).

I should note, though, that no matter what he looked like, he would act like Master Xehanort.

Thoughts? I'd also like to hear any thoughts you guys might have about the scenario with Aqua that I had previous mentioned.

edited 21st Feb '17 1:14:40 AM by KarkatTheDalek

So...I apologize for triple-posting, and I don't mean to make this thread all about me, but I really would like some advice on what I discussed in my previous post, if anyone would care to comment.

edited 22nd Feb '17 1:50:19 AM by KarkatTheDalek

You don't really have to figue out what the deal is with Master Xehanort, necessarily. Depending on what the fic's focus is, you can probably get away with the nitty-gritty of his nature just not coming up.

Nah, you're good. Make those kiddies suffer for your art.

This guy. This guy gets it.

I don't know - I do have one plot that I'd like to go through with regardless, but how I do it might depend on whether it's Master Xehanort or Terranort, so I'd like to figure out which one beforehand.

Honestly, I think what I have in mind is probably more merciful than what they went through.

Aqua might forget that reunion, but she also manages to get Ven back. Also, the circumstances that they meet in become incredibly important later on, so she might not forget forever...

Is it bad a came here hoping to promote my fanfic? but I am honestly interested in all the fic ideas going on in here and hope everyone will like mine once I am able to fully post.

If you guys really wanna check it out, it's the fanfic named Kingdom Hearts: Illuminated Sky on AO 3.

It's a canon divergence at the end of 3DS. Lea doesn't come in time, and Riku ends up trying to save Sora through a darkness based spell.

End result: Sora is cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Anyways besides my ideas, I hope I'm able to keep up with everyone else's. I thoroughly enjoy talking about people's idea. I'd probably mention more but um... that's a lot of backlog, lols.

edited 28th Feb '17 9:12:30 PM by Seeka

Would you mind linking your story here?

Anyway, you're more than welcome take part in our discussions! Are there any ideas in particular that you wish to discuss?

I'd love to post a link but as I said, I'm a newbie (at least officially. I've been using tvtropes for years) so I can't really post links until I get my new account status removed. I assume that takes a certain number of posts.

There are a few things I'd like to talk about though. I uploaded the first chapter of my fic in January. I've kind of been lazy on drafting the second chapter, but after that I plan on splitting the story three ways.

Or I was planning to. The sorta-canon of Aqua being the only one to wake up Ventus screws up my idea of sending Lea to Castle Oblivion to save Ventus and experiencing some angst as he relived his memories has either been shot or I have to throw canon out window and find some reasonable explanation on how I can save Ventus with Lea.

Riku and Kairi experience a journey more like Sora's and is the first branch of the story, with Mickey, Donald, and Goofy being the second branch. They all happen simultaneously.

edited 1st Mar '17 10:07:59 AM by Seeka

Ah, I see.

Lols, I didn't know you were online. I wouldn't have edited it and just waited to have posted that big ass thing here.

edited 1st Mar '17 10:10:22 AM by Seeka

Can't you still post links as plaintext that needs to be copied and pasted?

http://archiveofourown.org/works/9283949/chapters/21039686

Okay that works.

Sorries. Didn't know how peculiar the forums were here. It's been a while since I've used something relatively this... I don't want to say simple or basic. Unhindered?

edited 1st Mar '17 10:33:23 AM by Seeka

I see. Why Lea, exactly?

Well mostly to invoke Akuroku feels. I admit I am that shameless.

Plus it is happening in Castle Oblivion where a lot of Axel/Lea's story happens when 358/2 Days does not involve him. It mostly meant as a reflection and character development for Lea, and also as looking back on all the harm he's done, I think. Though I will be trying to invoke Ventus' and Roxas' memories as well.

Another reason why I did it like that is because I wanted three separate adventures, and it didn't feel right sending anyone else back to Castle Oblivion.

But honestly, I wanted to make Lea cry when he saw Ventus. Mistake him for Roxas. have an entire sad song and dance. To make it better, he's chased through Castle Oblivion by a Roxas doppelganger.

I'll be honest, I didn't think the entire thing through properly. Especially now with what happens in Fragmentary Passage. I'm thinking about sending Mickey (with or without Donald and Goofy) after Aqua, having Kairi and Riku take over his leg of the journal, and have Lea still save Ventus but bring him to the place where Aqua will be brought forth.

I see.

Well, if you want to go with that, that's fine, although I do think that you'll need a reason as to how Axel knows to go to Castle Oblivion, and how he's even able to find Ven - I'm pretty sure Aqua's the only one who can do that.

Now, having read it...I'll be honest, I didn't really care for it. I suppose my main problem is that you seem to be indulging in a lot of Purple Prose, which clogs up the action and makes it hard to follow.

Plus...while Evil Sora is by no means a bad premise...it happens way too fast here, and it's not very clear just what happened. So apparently light can be as evil as darkness? Okay, but if that's what's going on with Sora...well, why is he evil now, I guess?

I feel like you need more build up to it - which might be difficult, granted, but I still feel like it's too sudden. And offing Xehanort like that...well, it seems almost like an afterthought. Now, if I were to do an evil Sora, I'd have had him be subservient to Xehanort, while still being his own person. This way...it honestly feels like Make Way for the New Villains at its worst.

Also, Sora doesn't sound like himself. Now, this isn't the Sora we know, but I still feel like it should be recognizably him, otherwise I feel like Sora didn't so much as turn evil as get replaced by a completely different character.

I think you made a mistake portraying it as one long sequence - it seems to me like it might have benefited from more than one point of view - maybe even something from Sora's perspective? I think that would go a long way towards helping us understand what just happened.

Oh, and "Xehanort" doesn't have two H's.

I don't mean to discourage you. Like I said, it's not even a bad premise - I think you could write a good story about it. I just don't think this is it.

edited 1st Mar '17 1:20:42 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Can agree with the above assessment.

There's too many colors, and even with all that fancy description I'm still not sure what the transformation thing even looks like. Except that Sora has angel wings now.

Also evil/Angel!Sora sounds kinda like Sephiroth, even though I'm not 100% sure on his personality.

Like, why is this transformation thing even happening? What triggered it?

Also, light doesn't really take on the "purification/cleansing" sort of property in KH that it might do in other verses. At worst you get something like Eraqus, who isn't even that bad of a guy.

Also, even accepting the presence of this evil angel!Sora thing, I don't think Xehanort would be dumb enough to underestimate someone if they suddenly turned into some sort of god thing. He would at the very least try to do something.

Also there's blood.

I'll confess that I did have an idea for a sort of light-based version of Anti Form for Kairi - Omni Form, I called it.

Except where Anti Form acts animalistic, Omni Form would act in a more machinelike, "search and destroy" manner, attacking any and all darkness, regardless of who it belongs to.

Basically, just as single-mindedly destructive as Anti Form, but in a different manner.

edited 1st Mar '17 1:31:29 PM by KarkatTheDalek

I'm not actually sure if Aqua is the only one who knows where Ventus is hidden. The games give off the feelings Mickey and Yen Sid both also know. But like I said, the canon that Fragmentary passage has brought forth has really screwed me over.

I am not good with action scenes, honestly. I'm better with expressing how a character is, or their dialogue. That''s where I shine. My action sequences, i know, are clunky and my writing style gets in the way of that.

You make very fine points, all of which I will explain in chapter 2, but some of what you have mentioned are choices or variations of minds and styles.

Like I don't see the use of Xehanort because I cannot possibly see any form of this man, besides his younger self, actually working towards the greater good. What would be the point of me introducing a new villain if only I'm doomed to return to the old one? This man has tried to take over the universe like four times? And has manipulated time to do so?

If we're looking at Xehanort and see how much sordid darkness he has plagued the worlds with, why would a creature of light, an insane one at that, ever allow him to continue living?

Actually, I believe that Mickey said that they had located Ven's heart, which is not in Castle Oblivion.

And I feel that if it was that easy to find the Chamber of Waking, the Organization would have done it by now - and remember, Axel was one of the people looking for it.

I understand, but I honesty think that now's the time to do it. Chapter 1 is the hook, after all - you want to attract readers and get them interested, and if they don't understand what's going on, then they might not be inclined to stick around.

Well, I'll confess I would have preferred darkness-infested Sora who serves Xehanort to whatever you're doing, but that's just my person preference.

In any case, you're right - such a creature would never tolerate Xehanort.

Which is why I think the best course of action would be to allow Xehanort to escape, and go for an Evil vs. Evil route, with our heroes caught in the middle.

Obviously, you're free to write whatever you want, but I feel like you're wasting an opportunity here.

But beyond that, going from 0 to 100 in the space of a single chapter...I honestly don't think it's as much of a stylistic difference between us so much as a bad idea in general. Again, you're free to do whatever you want, but I would strongly caution against this.

edited 1st Mar '17 1:51:04 PM by KarkatTheDalek

edited 9th Mar '17 5:27:16 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

Only a week?

So I want to see this femslash shipping chart when it's done. Lots of caveats like this.

Alright, so in light of the trailer for Union χ [cross], I'd like to discuss an idea that I hinted at when I mentioned Aqua meeting Eraqus in a tearful reunion, only to forget the experience later on, which was part of a larger plot thread connected with χ. I'd like to know whether you guys think it would be consistent with what appears to have been revealed, whether I should use it but make it something of an alternate continuity in that regard, or whether I should just use a different idea entirely.

The idea was, when it was time to wake up Ven (Aqua having already been rescued at this point), for our heroes to discover that something was preventing Ven's heart from returning to his body. In order to investigate this, they dive into Ven's heart, only to find themselves in Daybreak Town (I'm not sure of who specifically would have dived in, although Riku and Aqua would definitely be among them). Doing this caused Eraqus - who had been inside Riku's heart through a sequence of events I'm still trying to determine the specifics of - to physically manifest alongside them, resulting in said tearful reunion.

They would then end up finding Ven, along with Ephemera, Skuld, the Foretellers and the rest of the Union members. They also meet Vanitas - who had previously returned to existence as a Nightmare and one of the Seekers of Darkness, and had followed them into Ven's heart - and Maleficent, who had arrived in this world using Datascape, which she had obtained through other means at the beginning of the story.

After defeating Maleficent and Vanitas - the former fleeing elsewhere while the latter leaves Ven's heart entirely - the truth is revealed: this version of Daybreak Town is a dream world (created by the Master of Masters) to house the surviving Dandelions, where they would relive their old adventures without their memories of the Keyblade War; the Foretellers are illusory beings created to watch over them, with Ava being the only one who's actually real (and she's more of a ghost than an actual person). Occasionally, sleeping hearts might find their way into this world - this happened to Ven, who ended up taking the place of Ephemera and Skuld's friend (the χ protagonist), who died in the Keyblade War. Furthermore, anyone who leaves the dream world will forget their experiences there, and those in the dream world will forget they were ever there (this happened to Mickey, Donald and Goofy that one time when the Gummi Ship crashed in Daybreak Town - they slipped into the Dream Realm somehow).

So with this in mind, our heroes bid the Daybreak Town gang goodbye - Eraqus stays behind to help protect the dream world from further attacks by Maleficent, effectively becoming a Spirit. Ventus finally wakes up, and everyone forgets their experiences in the dream Daybreak Town (although they have a vague feeling of having forgotten something important - Aqua in particular is crying, though she can't remember why). Ava, however, has sent a Chirithy to keep an eye on them, so perhaps there's still a chance that they'll meet again. For now, however, this adventure is forgotten...

...By the heroes, that is. But since he now exists as a Nightmare, Vanitas's memories don't quite work the same way as everyone else's, and he remembers everything, telling Xehanort just what he found. And Xehanort has a good idea what this dream world might have truly been intended for.

This plot thread stays dormant for awhile, right up until the endgame is about to start. Our heroes, acting on information from a source that would take too long to explain, travel to Twilight Town, where they find a hidden passage under the Old Mansion leading deep under the town. There, they discover a chamber filled with pods much like the one Sora slept in, each one containing a member of the Dandelions. Upon seeing Ephemera and Skuld, our heroes start to regain their memories of Daybreak Town, and the true purpose of the dream world is revealed: to use the dreams of the Dandelions to recreate the worlds after the Keyblade War destroyed everything. Furthermore, it's revealed that Xehanort seeks to manipulate their dreams - and through them, the worlds - as part of his ultimate plan - and Maleficent (revealed to be one of his vessels, albeit unknowingly) - as planted the seeds for him to do so.

Thoughts?

edited 11th Mar '17 12:19:52 AM by KarkatTheDalek