Fantastic Four Reboot

If they can fit Dr. Strange in they can also fit in the F4

Four brief videos on the team(scroll down).

I think there was also something about how the original script, as good as it was, wouldn't have fit with the existing MCU, so one of the reasons for the change was to make it so Ant-Man could actually be part of the larger picture.

Either that or Marvel was simply feed up with Wright delaying the movie again and again for other projects.

Has the Wright script been totally discarded or just reworked (without his further input of course)? Because that Thomas The Tank Engine gag from the trailer seems a very Edgar Wright kind of joke...

But to veer back on topic - I am fully intending to watch this whatever the feedback is like from critics or box office simply because whether it's good, bad or average I wouldn't be able to judge it fairly without seeing it for myself. Even if it turns out to be an absolute trainwreck of an F4 film... It might be alright as a sci-fi adventure film with characters vaguely similar to those of the First Family of Marvel, Incredibles-style.

From what I've read, the Wright script was just reworked — before, it was very light and funny, but apparently they reworked it to be more realistic. Although, yeah, the train gag is totally something Wright would do.

By that logic I would be forced to watch every single movie which hits the theatres. I always make a pre-selection based on what I think would interest me and what the critics say about a movie. Even movies which I plan to see no matter what I sometime miss out on just because I simply don't have the time to see them.

No, not every movie... I wasn't very clear. I am a Marvel fan in general and these are characters I have read about and followed (pretty casually but still probably more than most Joe Q. Average-Cinema-Goer.) I have heard the rumours about the film, most of them negative and the general perception seems to be it's going to suck, or at least not be good... BUT I personally wouldn't feel right talking about how the F4 are failing cinematically without being able to judge for myself if it WAS a failure (for me personally.)

Films I don't care about I don't watch and don't talk about for the same reason - they mean nothing to me.

I am more of the "I refuse to give a studio my money just because they attach a big name to a movie project" mind-set.

Personally I watch a film because the concept or the characters interest me. How big or small the names are generally doesn't interest me in the slightest. I am not going to watch San Andreas just because it's got Dwayne Johnson in it, because I don't like disaster movies. I did watch Ex Machina despite not knowing much about any of the main 3 stars because it looked extremely interesting.

F4 doesn't really have any A-list big names attached to this version, but I'd watch it if it was star studded or filled with newcomers I knew nothing about - because I'm watching for the characters that I enjoy.

My seeing or not seeing a film is probably not going to register with the studios, so I don't get involved in that game. If enough people are impassioned enough to boycott the movie in enough numbers it bombs, my one ticket sale isn't going to change that. If they don't... then my staying away would have been pointless.

That's not what I meant.

I usually have a list of movies which interest me for one reason or another. But that rarely means that I will watch them, no matter what. It just mean that they are up for consideration. That doesn't mean that I go just by reviews, though. It's a combination of if the trailer looks good, what the track record of the studio is (for example a Pixar movie has a better chance of me watching it than a Dream Works one), if I like the director and sometimes simply opportunity. Just slapping the right name in front of it is not enough.

With the Fantastic Four, there is a franchise (and studio) with a bad track record as far as I am concerned. A cast which doesn't excite me. A trailer I didn't like. So the only thing which might change my mind about watching it are good reviews.

Different strokes then I guess. As it should be of course.

I'm personally keeping my eye on this film because it could make-or-break a certain brand I enjoy. I don't honestly think it will be good, but the last few Fox comicbook movies were in my opinion so I'm playing the waiting game.

Well if he likes it, I must spitefully conclude that it is awful.

Its the mature, sensible thing to do.

Since I didn't like the trailer I guess I am not "people".

Sign me up on the "Millar's opinion ain't worth much" bandwagon, considering he's the guy who wrote Ultimate Fantastic Four. And the Ultimates.

And Civil War. And Nemesis. And also I heard a rumor that he might lick goats?

And isn't it well known that people associated with movies rarely bad mouth they're associated with before they've actually been released?

edited 29th May '15 9:36:13 AM by TheSpaceJawa

Mark Millar liking something isn't worth much to me. Comparing it to the first Fox FF movie is also not exactly convincing.

edited 29th May '15 9:47:02 AM by VeryMelon

Are the Ultimate Fantastic Four that bad?

They're not Ultimates bad. But they're not Ultimate Spider-Man good.

That being the case, as he's responsible for a largely "meh" F4 adaptation, and has demonstrated a recurring inability to write characters he didn't create without running them into the ground to make some hamfisted point, I'm inclined to think his opinion of Fant4stic isn't worth squat.

I don't know about the Ultimate Four, but I found this quote about his run on the 616 Fantastic Four

Personally, I think it is just plain boring. I just kinda quit the book after some. Btw, I personally do like some of Millar's books, including the Ultimates.

Actually, Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Millar were behind the first arc of Ultimate Fantastic Four. The next two arcs? Warren Ellis. And lo, they were awesome.

But then came Mike Carey and Mark Millar again and the book sucked.

edited 29th May '15 11:34:37 AM by alliterator