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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#252: Dec 12th 2014 at 8:37:17 PM

When I first clicked that blog, my eyes were more drawn to the post about being asexual, and I wondered if that had anything to do with the movie too. tongue And what is the "BLACK LIVES MATTER" popup supposed to accomplish?

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#253: Dec 12th 2014 at 8:38:37 PM

[up] It's merely meant to be a reminder. The contents of Wack'd's Tumblr isn't important now - I merely wished to discuss the potential problems the movie might have.

edited 12th Dec '14 8:39:00 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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#254: Dec 12th 2014 at 8:41:24 PM

And the reblogs were discussing the alleged problems TVTropes has for characterizing the speculation in that way. waii

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#255: Dec 12th 2014 at 8:44:31 PM

Which have been discussed. In this very thread I believe. I don't think we necessarily need a reminder.

edited 12th Dec '14 8:55:44 PM by edvedd

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#256: Dec 12th 2014 at 8:46:49 PM

Very well. I didn't mean to restate the arguments. I'm just a little worried, is all.

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#257: Dec 12th 2014 at 8:51:14 PM

Is there a controversy? Because all I got was a random pop up that said, "BLACK LIVES MATTER".

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#258: Dec 12th 2014 at 8:56:00 PM

@Bag: To discuss that specific point, it's probably not a case of her being 'unbalanced', so much as it is Riley being a 12-year old. Emotions run high at that age, and we often don't fully understand them or have them under control when we're going through that period of our lives. I do believe, as I've mentioned before, that the parents' emotions being homogeneous is just a way of visually describing how our emotions settle and sync up a bit as we get older, and they're not as sheerly intense as when we were younger.

I mean, the stereotypes weren't really needed, obviously. But I've heard that this is just a one-off scene, so they hammered it in a bit to squeeze all the humour out of the situation. As long as there is some good character development for both parents this may become less of an issue.

edited 12th Dec '14 8:57:53 PM by edvedd

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#259: Dec 12th 2014 at 8:56:39 PM

[up][up] That's just a general thing on that Tumblr - it has no relation to the subject at hand.

[up] Fair enough. As long as they show that neither of the parents are perfect, I think I'll be fine.

edited 12th Dec '14 8:57:45 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#260: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:00:13 PM

[up]Fair enough as well. This is just my take, and I think the movie will be more complex than what the scene portrays.

And reading back, the stereotypes were discussed here, but maybe not so much the gender-related issues.

edited 12th Dec '14 9:00:54 PM by edvedd

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#261: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:06:18 PM

The clip seems to be about midway through the movie. We never see Riley's Joy and Sadness, and Fear's "I thought you said we should act casual!" to Disgust seems to hint at something bad has already happened and her emotions have already discussed what they need to do.

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#262: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:20:11 PM

[up][up][up] It kind of is relevant when it apparently shows up in a pop-up any time you open that tumblr and makes we weary about reading whatever post you're talking about that I didn't see because I felt inclined to bug out from that site the moment a pop up of any kind appeared.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#263: Dec 12th 2014 at 9:43:54 PM

[up][up] I'd say fairly early on. Maybe the emotions get one or two scenes together before this. Could be wrong, of course.

[up] I understand why it might be a problem, but considering it's not my Tumblr, I don't see the point in discussing it here of all places.

edited 12th Dec '14 9:44:12 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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#264: Dec 12th 2014 at 10:52:21 PM

It's times like these I really hope that the parents' emotions are not featured in the movie.

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#265: Dec 12th 2014 at 11:03:59 PM

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#266: Dec 13th 2014 at 11:52:53 AM

Watched the trailer and I can really see myself enjoying it. can't wait to see how the mom's emotions playout through the movie as well.

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Sijo from Puerto Rico Since: Jan, 2001
#267: Dec 13th 2014 at 2:29:20 PM

So far, I have the impression that, if the parent's Emotions are shown, it'll be in just that one scene, and just to establish that yes, they have little Emotion-people in their heads too. And their looks were just a sight gag ("the Dad's emotions have mustaches too!" [lol]) The film itself will probably be mainly about Riley dealing with having to move to a new place and Joy trying to cheer up the others (and thus Riley) in the process.

Now, I'm not saying the premise doesn't have existentialist and gender issues. But this is so fantastic, I'm not even going to bother criticizing it (as I usually do wink), just enjoy for what it is.

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#268: Dec 13th 2014 at 8:17:06 PM

[up] Anyone can find issues in just about any movie if they want to look hard enough for them.

Frankly, I wouldn't have seen any of the supposed issues with this movie if people weren't insisting on pointing them out at me.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#269: Dec 13th 2014 at 8:55:07 PM

[up] Well, just because it's by Disney or Pixar doesn't mean it should be free of criticism. I think it's a little much to not run into criticism on the internet.

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#270: Dec 13th 2014 at 9:07:28 PM

Seems a bit premature to criticize a trailer, though (no matter what kind of movie it's for). We barely even have any context for what we're looking at.

Personally, I'll save the judgment for when I actually have something to judge.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
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#271: Dec 13th 2014 at 9:09:31 PM

[up] That's fair. We know comparatively little about the at the moment.

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#272: Dec 14th 2014 at 12:24:11 PM

I've seen the trailer, and I think the movie looks like it could be great!

I'm really happy that Pixar is doing another film about people. They hardly ever do those anymore, and I've always enjoyed their films centered around humans. You just find so much more emotion and depth with them, IMO.

As for the "why don't Riley's emotions have the similar looks gimmick that the parent's emotions do" question, I personally think it's just because she's a teenager. Teenage years are a period of self-discovery, so maybe she's just not sure what kind of person she is yet. That, and the fact that teenagers can change moods so quickly. That's just my guess.

Also, I think that they did a great job casting the emotions.

edited 14th Dec '14 12:26:47 PM by Explosivo25

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#273: Dec 14th 2014 at 1:42:39 PM

If plot is something we're going to wait for, can we at least talk about the character designs?

I absolutely love the textures on the emotions. The "energy sprite" composition is fantastic- it reminds me very much of the same anton fleece Kermit is made from.

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#274: Dec 16th 2014 at 3:30:43 PM

[up][up][up][up] If it is too early to make a judgement about the film then they shouldn't had released the trailer in the first place. Because that's kind of the point of releasing a trailer-you're showing a preview of what you've made to the public to gauge their interest in it; and as a result people will decide whether they are interested in it or not-a decision that will be based on the public's positive or negative emotions (no pun or irony intended).

Anyway, I'm very interested in this, really do want to see how the emotions play out and how their characters are developed. A bit iffy on the presence of Disgust though, because that emotion seems more like an extension of anger more than a emotion that is entirely separate from the existing ones. Maybe I wouldn't feel this way if there was an emotion for "Surprise", which is similar to Disgust in that it's similar to another existing emotion (Joy) and I think could had acted as a foil of sorts. (I'm generally operating off this emotions chart here for reference.)

All said though, the film will need to do a lot to convince me that Disgust is an essential part of the cast of emotions.

edited 16th Dec '14 3:46:18 PM by Yeow95

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#275: Dec 16th 2014 at 3:47:41 PM

That's not how advertising works, though. You know those ads that make you go "how the heck does that make me want to buy that"? It's not always trying to convince you to buy the thing. Its main purpose is to make you (or if you prefer, the general public) remember that this is a thing that exists.

That is what the trailer's main purpose is: Get the word out. This is a thing that is going to happen. Convincing people that wouldn't otherwise be interested that it is worth seeing is just a secondary goal.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...

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