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NesClassic Inheritor of the Wing from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Inheritor of the Wing
#101: Dec 12th 2013 at 5:41:20 PM

[up]I just don't like his humor (and I find him too loud), but to each their own. One of my friends quite enjoys his videos.

Though that's a topic for another thread, probably.

PAGETOPPER TALES , WOO-HOO

edited 12th Dec '13 5:41:58 PM by NesClassic

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Funden u wot m8 from the maintenance tunnels Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: It's complicated
u wot m8
#102: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:06:09 PM

[up][up]Some people don't like his style and seem to have to scream about it every chance they get.

I, personally, like his videos, but I acknowledge that there are far better people out there.

On topic: I can't imagine this sticking around for awhile. The uproar over this was far, far worse than the whole Google+ comment thing (which wasn't really that big of a deal, to be honest). There's been a lot of backlash. Say what you will about Google, but they're not stupid.

Alucard Lazy? from Vancouver, BC Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Lazy?
#103: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:11:30 PM

I've never watched a single one of his videos, but I know him as a fellow who likes to use his influence towards various charities. I think he deserves respect for that.


Making any false claims of copyright is outright illegal, not that anyone ever gets anything more than a slap on the wrist at worst for it. So a lawsuit would be very viable and if against Youtube would indeed likely cause changes to the system. If I remember correctly ContentID was itself the result of a lawsuit from Viacom.

If that's true, can't someone "sick the dogs on them," as the term goes? Inform some major company, with no affiliation or even interest towards this whole event that they're losing money, and their brand-recognition is being compromised. Hell, you could inform several major companies for as long as it takes until one of them decides to go to court with You Tube over this.

As ReviewTechUsa mentions, where will the next Jon Tron or Angry Joe come from with this system in place?


Oh, and AlphaOmegaSin's rant is up for anyone interested (it's a long one).

edited 12th Dec '13 6:22:02 PM by Alucard

Thnikkafan ? from Faroe Islands (not really) Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#104: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:12:00 PM

[up][up][up] This one, actually. And you can find there a lot of the evidence towards why I don't like him.

edited 12th Dec '13 6:12:26 PM by Thnikkafan

Anyone who assigns themselves loads of character tropes is someone to be worried about.
Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#105: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:15:11 PM

Yeah, you could. Who knows if the companies that actually do have rights will take action in such a case though.

MrYoshbert A Fan of Feathery Flights of Fancy from ??? Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
A Fan of Feathery Flights of Fancy
#106: Dec 12th 2013 at 8:04:47 PM

Forgive me if this was posted before, but apparently, Classic Game Room is no longer going to be putting videos up on Youtube, because of this fiasco.

edited 12th Dec '13 8:06:14 PM by MrYoshbert

Eh.
SilentlyHonest Since: Oct, 2011
#107: Dec 12th 2013 at 8:12:31 PM

This is a damn shame, it's actually eliciting an emotional response from me, and it really has nothing to do with me.

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#108: Dec 13th 2013 at 12:52:23 PM

An exodus to Blip.tv is certainly one of the probable outcomes of all this. Youtube may be the big dog in town, but the people with loyal followings will have that following follow them.

SilentlyHonest Since: Oct, 2011
#109: Dec 13th 2013 at 12:55:11 PM

A mass exodus would literally wake Google up honestly, I honestly think a majority of youtube money comes from LP'rs.

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#110: Dec 13th 2013 at 1:21:13 PM

Blip has stricter content rules though, not sure if L Ps would be allowed there. I think they only want original content.

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#111: Dec 13th 2013 at 1:35:43 PM

well if they allow stuff like tgwtg reviewers which are primarily just them riffing on the movie in question (with the occasional "its ok" or "its terrible" at the end of the video, which isnt that far off from L Ps which rate a game before they play it and then tend to switch around and loathe it by the end) then im pretty sure they're fine with L Ps.

which would be why blip is almost always where the alt video is.

Funden u wot m8 from the maintenance tunnels Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: It's complicated
u wot m8
#112: Dec 14th 2013 at 7:48:40 PM

I know several large LP'ers are moving to Twitch for awhile.

Alucard Lazy? from Vancouver, BC Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Lazy?
#113: Dec 19th 2013 at 1:46:52 PM

http://playeressence.com/jonathan-blow-gets-flagged-on-youtube-for-showing-footage-of-his-own-game/

Now here's a chance for a relatively well-known fellow to sue their asses. I think he has a pretty good case.

Sony could sue them too, simply for their system making a claim for them. No one should be allowed to speak on behalf of an entire company when they have no affiliation with that company.

CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
Decoy
#114: Dec 19th 2013 at 1:48:36 PM

Good my favorite Let's Player earns money from organizing paintball tournaments.

My President is Funny Valentine.
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#116: Dec 19th 2013 at 7:17:52 PM

I feel like I get increasingly dumber the more I hear about this.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#117: Dec 19th 2013 at 9:12:33 PM

[up]I know, right. This whole situation is fucking idiotic and Google are married to it so hard one would think it had an ironclad pre-nuptual agreement that gave it eleventy billion dollars if they tried to divorce themselves from it.

In a related thing, mainly because it ties into this current stupidity and helps explain some of it, this video is fucking awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTq8TrA3hb4

edited 19th Dec '13 9:17:09 PM by TamH70

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#119: Dec 19th 2013 at 9:21:02 PM

I'm beginning to suspect the problem is unintended, that Google did an update to their checking system that glitched and it has gone out of control. (Remember, this change wasn't supposed to go live until January.)

They can't take part or all of the new system down because they don't have the manpower to cover for it (given their other policy changes), they can't implement a fix quickly enough to do something about it, and they don't want to admit they screwed it up because that will make them look worse.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#120: Dec 19th 2013 at 9:25:11 PM

Nope. Sorry. Read the Cracked article by David Wong about how the tech industry done stopped that whole innovation shit this year, (making some pretty good points in the process) - this shit is all part of a plan by Google. All of it. Including fucking up youtube.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-signs-tech-industry-finally-ran-out-ideas-in-2013/ - the number one item on the list goes into detail, with handy links.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#121: Dec 20th 2013 at 6:57:46 AM

And exactly how does that article disprove what I said? A competent consumer-unfriendly plan in Area A does not make everything that happens competent, consumer-unfriendly, or a plan. (Don't get me wrong, this is consumer-unfriendly, but there's a good chance it was not planned.)

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#122: Dec 20th 2013 at 7:44:10 AM

Yeah. Google+ integration is the kind of idea pulled out of the arse of a company that's desperate to fight for Facebook market share, because social media is the Next Big Thing and Google is desperately struggling to retain its status as "the Internet company."

The autochecking software going Skynet on us doesn't fit that narrative, so a more likely answer is that it was not part of an agenda and instead was a result of someone firing off a new functionality "improvement" without making sure it works. Fortunately, since Google appears to have pissed off a lot of other companies involved in the whole thing, it's likely that they'll take more notice of that than they will of the internet rage.

PS: Honest Corporate Executives, or at least net-savvy ones: thanks for having the Internet's back on this.

DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#124: Dec 21st 2013 at 12:49:32 PM

Did you miss the bit in the article about Content ID and why all this was part of Google's plan? Because I sure as heck didn't.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#125: Dec 21st 2013 at 6:55:16 PM

Here's a list of how different game developers view monetizing their footage. (It was put together by indie game developer Lars Doucet.)

The majority is pretty clearly not on You Tube's side here.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)

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