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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#551: Dec 8th 2013 at 3:25:15 PM

At least Assassin's Creed won something.

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#552: Dec 8th 2013 at 7:27:57 PM

You know, I have only one response to Geoff's so-called jokes in the VGX, as well as all the parodies they made of gamers:

>_<

occono from Ireland. Since: Apr, 2009
#553: Dec 8th 2013 at 7:57:12 PM

Like there was no INCEST sex in the series at all. Although, it might just be incestual undertones, no sex, but sex with non-incestual couples. EDIT: So apparently there have been incestual sex babies in the series.

Uh, yeah.

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Nettacki Since: Jan, 2010
#555: Dec 8th 2013 at 10:59:52 PM

Replying to Bad Wolf's post a couple pages back:

I feel like that's being overly sensitive. Yes, trans people have to deal with a lot of shit coming at them from all sides, but that joke was pretty clearly just over-the-top ridiculous. I have a feeling gay people wouldn't get up-in-arms if the joke had been about Wario coming out of the closet, instead. The most offensive thing about the joke is that it wasn't funny, not its subject matter.

When a group has been marginalized and shat on as much as transsexuals, it's highly understandable for them to be sensitive to many jokes made at their expense, even the seemingly over-the-top ridiculous lighthearted ones. At this point, they've had so many jokes made at their expense with little to no real sense acceptance in society that even jokes made in good taste can be easily mistaken with intentionally harmful ones.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#556: Dec 8th 2013 at 11:02:18 PM

That's an incredibly dangerous stance to take, since it starts to cross over from a matter of sensitivity to censoring comedy. But I'm not going to pursue it further than that.

The joke was in bad taste (the whole show was just in really, really awful taste to be honest), but it was not "transphobic".

Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#557: Dec 8th 2013 at 11:24:09 PM

Being against comedy that outright says homophobic, transphobic, racist, or other such things is hardly a dangerous stance to take, though. It means people have some, you know, taste and show as much respect towards other people as possible.

I'd like to see that joke, though. Or namely, the original video. The other videos don't work anymore.

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#558: Dec 8th 2013 at 11:51:05 PM

So I take it this show was as big of a joke as I thought it would be?

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#559: Dec 9th 2013 at 12:32:48 AM

It wasn't even a good joke either. Need I point you to my reaction vid again?

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#560: Dec 9th 2013 at 12:35:28 AM

do it

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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#561: Dec 9th 2013 at 12:37:26 AM

Here you go:

Pretty much my entire reaction to this fricken "gaming awards" show. >_>

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#562: Dec 9th 2013 at 12:44:00 AM

The whole ceremony is ran by non gamers. Spike is about as relevant to gaming as Roger Ebert.

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#563: Dec 9th 2013 at 5:09:49 AM

Geoff actually is a gamer, he's just so subservient it just makes him seem spineless.

His co-host, Joel Mc Hale of The Soup, was far worse then Geoff, really.

edited 9th Dec '13 5:10:33 AM by Demongodofchaos2

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Honeydance Gina Linetti from 99th Precinct Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#564: Dec 9th 2013 at 5:44:26 AM

I don't think so, honestly.

Joel actually asked interesting questions as opposed to the PR drivel Geoff was asking. Despite being pitched to him as an awards ceremony there is no audience to play off of, so he can't use reactions in his presentation. He saw all of this, realizes it is a joke 3 hour infomercial and knows he's never going to do this again so he has a little fun and phones it in a little. If I was in his position I would do the exact same thing.

The only time Geoff didn't do his PR bullshit was talking to Reggie, and even then that was expected seeing as he's only hard on Nintendo.

Couchpotato20 Will kill you from Hell Since: Apr, 2011
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#565: Dec 9th 2013 at 6:41:08 AM

@L Dragon

Dude relax. Good lord not everyone is able to be exceptional master of laughs. >_>

On another note: damn me having work. I missed the fucking awards cuz of it (that and the bad weather).

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#566: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:27:24 AM

Irene: I'm contending that the joke was not transphobic, and that simply being about it does not make it inherently so. Which is a conclusion a lot of people immediately jump to around here.

tl;dr (for the entire point I've been making, not this post, obviously) The joke was bad, but it wasn't hateful. Moving on from this particular can of worms now.

I'm having a hard time understanding exactly who the show was for. The amount of time it spent mocking gamers seems to imply that it isn't us. But who else would care about a video game awards show?

Irene Since: Aug, 2012
#567: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:31:39 AM

I cannot properly discuss it till I see the joke. And if people can actually consider it transphobic, then more than likely it wasn't worth making in the first place. Likewise, it's more than reasonable enough for people to be annoyed at that kind of stuff after being heavily discriminated against.

I'm Trans* myself. So I'd certainly hope it wasn't as "bad" as people say it is. And being in horrible taste doesn't make it ultimately less offensive by default anyway.

Honeydance Gina Linetti from 99th Precinct Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#568: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:47:45 AM

It was a sort of "hello there, he, she, or he-she" and he said in such a phoned in way that it was probably on the teleprompter than something he came up with

really, I was more offended by the Loitering squad than anything else

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#569: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:48:40 AM

Wonder if they give Razzies for award shows...

Honeydance Gina Linetti from 99th Precinct Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#570: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:49:57 AM

They don't, the last time I checked.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#571: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:49:59 AM

The joke people were talking about was actually Wario getting a sex change not being the big surprise of the night. The one you mentioned was well past the point where everyone realized that Joel was just as disgusted with the show as we were.

Honeydance Gina Linetti from 99th Precinct Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#572: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:50:45 AM

Oh wow, I don't think I heard that one. I can't say much on that.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#573: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:52:04 AM

I find it funny that people here don't know that Loiter Squad's whole shtick is shock value.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#574: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:53:43 AM

It was at the top of the show. I can't remember if the big surprise was in reference to the trailer unlocked after 25,000 hashtags (which ended up being Telltale's Game of Thrones) or the first World Premiere (which was Tales from the Borderlands).

Something I found pretty funny that no one has really mentioned was how Geoff kept trying to get Joel to "read" the twitter questions off an iPad and Joel completely shut him down with "They're on the prompter, I'll read them from there."

Honeydance Gina Linetti from 99th Precinct Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#575: Dec 9th 2013 at 8:54:39 AM

Hell, I did't even hear about the Loitering Squad until VGX. And they weren't that bad honestly until they started talking about what they liked most of GTA.

[up] Geoff was probably trying to show Joel some really nasty tweets about him.

edited 9th Dec '13 8:55:33 AM by Honeydance


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