You know, I have only one response to Geoff's so-called jokes in the VGX, as well as all the parodies they made of gamers:
>_<
Like there was no INCEST sex in the series at all. Although, it might just be incestual undertones, no sex, but sex with non-incestual couples. EDIT: So apparently there have been incestual sex babies in the series.
Uh, yeah.
DumboReplying to Bad Wolf's post a couple pages back:
When a group has been marginalized and shat on as much as transsexuals, it's highly understandable for them to be sensitive to many jokes made at their expense, even the seemingly over-the-top ridiculous lighthearted ones. At this point, they've had so many jokes made at their expense with little to no real sense acceptance in society that even jokes made in good taste can be easily mistaken with intentionally harmful ones.
That's an incredibly dangerous stance to take, since it starts to cross over from a matter of sensitivity to censoring comedy. But I'm not going to pursue it further than that.
The joke was in bad taste (the whole show was just in really, really awful taste to be honest), but it was not "transphobic".
Being against comedy that outright says homophobic, transphobic, racist, or other such things is hardly a dangerous stance to take, though. It means people have some, you know, taste and show as much respect towards other people as possible.
I'd like to see that joke, though. Or namely, the original video. The other videos don't work anymore.
So I take it this show was as big of a joke as I thought it would be?
ALL CREATURE WILL DIE AND ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BROKEN. THAT'S THE LAW OF SAMURAI.It wasn't even a good joke either. Need I point you to my reaction vid again?
do it
ALL CREATURE WILL DIE AND ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BROKEN. THAT'S THE LAW OF SAMURAI.Here you go:
Pretty much my entire reaction to this fricken "gaming awards" show. >_>
The whole ceremony is ran by non gamers. Spike is about as relevant to gaming as Roger Ebert.
ALL CREATURE WILL DIE AND ALL THE THINGS WILL BE BROKEN. THAT'S THE LAW OF SAMURAI.Geoff actually is a gamer, he's just so subservient it just makes him seem spineless.
His co-host, Joel Mc Hale of The Soup, was far worse then Geoff, really.
edited 9th Dec '13 5:10:33 AM by Demongodofchaos2
Watch SymphogearI don't think so, honestly.
Joel actually asked interesting questions as opposed to the PR drivel Geoff was asking. Despite being pitched to him as an awards ceremony there is no audience to play off of, so he can't use reactions in his presentation. He saw all of this, realizes it is a joke 3 hour infomercial and knows he's never going to do this again so he has a little fun and phones it in a little. If I was in his position I would do the exact same thing.
The only time Geoff didn't do his PR bullshit was talking to Reggie, and even then that was expected seeing as he's only hard on Nintendo.
@L Dragon
Dude relax. Good lord not everyone is able to be exceptional master of laughs. >_>
On another note: damn me having work. I missed the fucking awards cuz of it (that and the bad weather).
"I don't give a rat's ass about going to hell. I guess it's because I feel like I'm already there." -MugenIrene: I'm contending that the joke was not transphobic, and that simply being about it does not make it inherently so. Which is a conclusion a lot of people immediately jump to around here.
tl;dr (for the entire point I've been making, not this post, obviously) The joke was bad, but it wasn't hateful. Moving on from this particular can of worms now.
I'm having a hard time understanding exactly who the show was for. The amount of time it spent mocking gamers seems to imply that it isn't us. But who else would care about a video game awards show?
I cannot properly discuss it till I see the joke. And if people can actually consider it transphobic, then more than likely it wasn't worth making in the first place. Likewise, it's more than reasonable enough for people to be annoyed at that kind of stuff after being heavily discriminated against.
I'm Trans* myself. So I'd certainly hope it wasn't as "bad" as people say it is. And being in horrible taste doesn't make it ultimately less offensive by default anyway.
It was a sort of "hello there, he, she, or he-she" and he said in such a phoned in way that it was probably on the teleprompter than something he came up with
really, I was more offended by the Loitering squad than anything else
Wonder if they give Razzies for award shows...
They don't, the last time I checked.
The joke people were talking about was actually Wario getting a sex change not being the big surprise of the night. The one you mentioned was well past the point where everyone realized that Joel was just as disgusted with the show as we were.
Oh wow, I don't think I heard that one. I can't say much on that.
I find it funny that people here don't know that Loiter Squad's whole shtick is shock value.
Long live Cinematech. FC:0259-0435-4987It was at the top of the show. I can't remember if the big surprise was in reference to the trailer unlocked after 25,000 hashtags (which ended up being Telltale's Game of Thrones) or the first World Premiere (which was Tales from the Borderlands).
Something I found pretty funny that no one has really mentioned was how Geoff kept trying to get Joel to "read" the twitter questions off an iPad and Joel completely shut him down with "They're on the prompter, I'll read them from there."
Hell, I did't even hear about the Loitering Squad until VGX. And they weren't that bad honestly until they started talking about what they liked most of GTA.
Geoff was probably trying to show Joel some really nasty tweets about him.
edited 9th Dec '13 8:55:33 AM by Honeydance
At least Assassin's Creed won something.
Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.