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They were once, in one of the (many) post-Crisis reboots. However that version is unpopular because it made them Qwardians. The most popular vrsion is from the Earth-2 graphic novel, which unfortunately also includes the Evil Wins In Their World theory that I mentioned.

Secret Wars happened at a much larger scale for a longer period of time. The ways the remaining heroes handled the other ones absences was told in the "52" Maxiseries

That does not make them Qwardians. Qward is the name of a planet in the Antimatter universe, not the universe itself. Also I have this idea for Power Ring (the CS member) that is a combination of pre New 52 and New 52 origins plus my own thing.

I'm aware that Qward is the equivalent of Oa, not Earth. However the Antimatter Syndicate were described specifically as being Qwardians (I have not seen that comic myself thought.) I think the writers just wanted to use the team without thinking too much about their backgrounds.

Yeah the writers tend to make really stupid mistakes for those reasons.So what did you think of my making Superwoman a Kryptonian?

I can see what you were going for, but it really depends on the kind of background you want to give the CS. In the original version, they were counterparts of, but not exactly the same people as, their respective heroes- for example Ultraman was an astronaut who got his powers from kryptonite. Giving Superwoman both Superman's and Wonder Woman's origins seems a bit excessive. But then the Earth-Two TV movie apparently decided that she was EVIL MARY MARVEL! So I guess anything goes, just write it well.

Oh, and I just remembered another being who can be used to explain the existence of senseless worlds: Marvel's Shaper Of Worlds- it's right there in his name. His only problem is a total lack of imagination, requiring him to get a partner -usually a human- to dream up stuff for him.

edited 4th Sep '14 2:44:59 PM by Sijo

Yeah the Shaper of Worlds probably is the reason for the CS earth. So here is my origin for Power Ring.

There was once a warlord named Volthoom who aimed to conquer the universe, however he heard that the people of Maltus had started to begin accessing a great power. So he decided to destroy them, but first he wouldbecome just as powerful as they, through unknown means he gained a power similar to the power of Will but was turned into an energy being.

Making his way to Maltus he found a youg Malten who was returning home and possessed him, and once he was on Maltus began his assault. The Maltens who had already transformed into their new forms fought back, and after a long battle destroyed the body he possessed. The Guardians quickly trapped Volthoom inside the ring that the unnamed Malten had used to wear, where a a Guardian named Krona put the ring on.

Volthoom still concious imediately began trying to consume Krona, however he cut off his own hand to stop it. They all watched in horror as the hand was devoured by the ring, when it finished the ring exploed revealing that Volthoom had made himself a ring body of his own.

Te Guardians then decided to throw the ring into the Bleed, where after many centuries it landed into another universe and was found by a young gurrilla fighter named Abin Sur. Unfortunately he put the ring on and began to conqour his own planet, however after many years he began to notice that the ring was doing something to him

Realizing that the ring was going to kill him or transform him into something else, flew to a planet where he coould kill himself and be rid of the ring. He eventually found the Earth and landed in Tibet and met a young monk (alternate version of the ancient one), tricking the monk into taking the ring Abin died in peace.

The young monk then decided to find out how the ring worked so he began meditating, during WW 2 he was shot in the head while meditating by a soldior named Alan Scott. Alan thinking te ring was cool looking he stole it from the monk's body and put it on, unfortunatly he now had Volthoom's and the monk's voices in his head.

After a life of crime and evil Alan saw that his body had transformed into a horrific form, so he sought out a cure for his condition. However his search ended when a janitor turned enemy spy accidentally killed him, Volthoom sensing a usfull host/slave spoke up for the first time said "Harold Jordan, you are weak willed and filled with fear. You are now my slave. Ha ha ha ha!"

Very interesting. Which parts (if any) are from the New 52? I remember the Volthoom monk being pre-Crisis but I hear they changed The Hand At The Creation Of The Universe from being God's to being Volthoom's (!!) an idea I definitely don't like.

I was not aware of Volthoom being the hand now. The New 52 stuff is the Volthoom ring's whole slowly kills/transforms you thing.

I only heard about it, I never found out if they were going with it. I hope not.

Can we also have a version of the Justice Lords universe, where the Justice Initiative go fascist?

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Also, on the cosmic level, I have an idea that Phoenix, Kismet, and Galactus would form a sort of Trimurti, with Phoenix as creator, Kismet as sustainer, and Galactus as destroyer; and, of course, the detritus of Galactus' destruction would be used by Phoenix for new creation. Workable?

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Aren't the Justice Lords pretty much just "We couldn't get the rights to the Crime Syndicate"?

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Maybe, but honestly I always liked the J-Lords (with their being based off a tragic event, rather than just reversed for no logical reason) better than the Syndicate.

As for the "Trimurti" that's one way to look at them, but don't forget that Marvel has lots of cosmic beings (and Dc has a few as well) so make sure to figure how they all (or at least the major ones) fit together first.

Not really, no. The Crime Syndicate is exactly that; a group of evil JLA counterparts that, instead of going into Superheroics, went into crime, and reveled in their career choices. Whereas the Justice Lords started out almost exactly like the 'main' Justice League; true heroes who wanted to protect the world. It was only after Superman confronted Luthor in the White House that the League became more authoritative and extremist, and even then, their goal was still to safeguard and protect the world, even if that meant taking control of it. Basically, the CSA and the Justice Lords are different animals.

edited 7th Sep '14 4:36:20 PM by kkhohoho

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Also. I should probably share with you guys that Jason Todd idea I had that got me recommended to come to this thread in the first place, shouldn't I?

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Yep. Please do.

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All right, so, in my opinion, people shouldn't get resurrected in comics unless their resurrection served some purpose. Bucky, as an example, came back and gave us the awesome Winter Soldier arc and a cool, fulfilling transition into the Captain America role. By comparison, Jason Todd came back and...really just became someone for Batman to talk down to about how killing is bad. So here's what I'd do.

So, everything about the Red Hood story is fine. But, instead of just getting upset that Batman wouldn't kill Joker, Jason needs to go ahead and do it himself. The man beat him to death with a crowbar, blew him up, kidnapped his mother and used her as bait to kill him and tried to kill her, too. There is no reason why Jason should let Joker live. So he shoots Joker dead. Completely. Twice in the head, twice in the chest, twice in the stomach. Joker is dead, forever. And any bridge is burnt between Jason and Bruce forever. And now, Jason's not just XTREME Robin. He's Batman's new worst enemy. He knows everything about Bruce, both personally, and in terms of his tactics. He knows how to hurt Batman worse than any of his other rogues. And to the other rogues, Jason is a hundred times more dangerous than The Joker. Because for all the talk about how "unpredictable" and "dangerous" Joker was, none of them really ever seemed to be in any danger of him killing them. If anything, they were his friends. Jason, on the other hand, hates all of them. They spent his childhood trying to kill him. Jason could murder them at the drop of a hat as easily as work with them. And for Batman, Jason isn't just some crazy person, or a friend who he failed. Jason is his son. Who he watched die. And now Jason's alive again, and he hates Bruce. And Bruce has to stop him. But what he wants more than anything in the world is to just hug Jason and let them be a family again, even though he knows it's impossible. To me, that is so much more interesting and emotionally investing than a crazy guy who can't decide if he wants to murder Batman or fuck him.

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That could actually work. You could even have characters like Anarchy, or maybe Harley Quinn, try to fill the Joker's shoes; take over where he left off. Just because he's gone doesn't mean he can't leave behind one heck of a legacy.

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Hmmm... an evil batman that isn't Bruce... interesting. I like it.

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CSA Owl Man is named Thomas Wayne jr, he is alternate Bruce's brother.

Also: not sure if this idea's been tossed around, but maybe when Clark first develops his powers as a teenager, he figures he's a mutant and goes to the Xavier Institute. He hangs around just long enough to make some connections (Buddies with Bobby and Hank, flirt with Jean, butt heads with Scott) and maybe go on an adventure before Xavier reveals that, whatever Clark is, it turns out that he's not a mutant, and will have to leave.

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What year did Clark first find out he has powers and what year did the School get founded in this verse?

I don't buy that last bit; if Xavier didn't like non-mutants, then why did he let Warlock stay at the mansion?

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great

Wasn't Warlock a reality warper? Seriously who would say no to a guy who could casually wipe you from existence?

Not so much he doesn't like non-mutants, as much as the Xavier school, when it started, was specifically for mutants. I dunno, like I said, just a random idea.

edited 10th Sep '14 8:40:02 AM by SonOfSharknado

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