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#7976: Oct 25th 2016 at 2:23:51 PM

"I mean I can name two real life situations like that off the top of my head, hell I just thought of a third that might well apply."

Hamas in the Gaza strip.

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#7977: Nov 1st 2016 at 2:17:42 PM

ISIS Wants to Enable Serial Killers by Hacking Surveillance Cameras

The ISIS terrorist group is trying to convince its followers abroad to become serial killers carrying out multiple attacks, instead of a one-off attack, in an attempt to create maximum psychological terror.

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#7978: Nov 1st 2016 at 2:52:48 PM

Syrian women saved from Daesh by female Kurdish fighters set up their own female-only battalion: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-isis-battle-latest-all-women-battalion-al-bab-manbij-a7391671.html

Syrian women freed from Isis, following the example of female Kurdish fighters, are taking up arms in order to help in the next fight.

Female residents originally from al-Bab in northern Syria who were living in nearby Manbij when it was liberated have been so inspired by the fighting of the female soldiers in the Kurdish Women’s Protection Units (YPJ) that they have created their own all-female battalion ahead of the battle for their city.

“When Isis invaded al-Bab city, they detained my brother and killed him. I have been criticising the practices of Isis for a long time. I have been arrested and tortured several times at the hands of Isis terrorists,” one new member told local news.

“An Isis female jihadi was responsible for torturing me in a very brutal way. And now I’ve joined the al-Bab Military Council in order to fight those terrorists.”

Manbij town was liberated in August after two years of Isis’ rule by the mostly Kurdish coalition known as the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) following two months of intense fighting.

Local SDF military commanders immediately set about creating a ‘military council’ to plan the next offensive - retaking al-Bab, 30 miles (50 kilometres) away.

Since mid-August both Kurdish-led and Turkish forces have been edging closer to the city of approximately 60,000 people.

“I joined the council with the belief in the necessity of liberating our territory from Isis. The terrorist group has killed or displaced many of our people in al-Bab,” a new recruit called Ahman said.

In Manbij, more than 50 women have joined the local police force to protect their hard-won freedoms, it was reported last month.

Shortly after militants were driven from the city, local news reported Manbij’s women were also organising an all-female council to protect and promote the rights of women and girls in future.

Elsewhere in Kurdish Syria on Tuesday, the administration based in Rojava announced it was newly creating a ‘federal army’ across its three cantons in the north of the country.

Syrian Kurds declared their autonomy after repelling President Bashar al-Assad’s army shortly after the Syrian Civil War broke out in 2011.

The Kurdish resistance movement - long outlawed as a terrorist group in Turkey - is strongly committed to feminist principles: most local administrations have quotas for female politicians and officials, and they have parity with men in the military.

The Syrian Kurdish fighting forces have been some of the most successful in repelling the advance of Isis and other Islamist groups - but with the tide now turning against Isis’ caliphate, Rojava is focusing its attention on consolidating its territory in the face of strong opposition from the governments in both Syria and Turkey.

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#7979: Nov 1st 2016 at 2:56:34 PM

That's awesome.Power to them.

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#7980: Nov 1st 2016 at 7:13:15 PM

http://thediplomat.com/2016/06/will-islamists-force-japan-to-abandon-pacifism/

An interesting article I read in regards to whether Article 9 will be seriously amended.

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#7981: Nov 2nd 2016 at 10:18:22 AM

[up] It's not Islamists, it's the Chinese.

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#7982: Nov 2nd 2016 at 1:49:01 PM

The history of kidnappings by isis and others is what is pushing Japan more to amend, The Japanese peacekeepers in Sudan are basically being a testbed for a lot of it too.

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#7983: Nov 3rd 2016 at 3:20:57 AM

Sounds more like it, especially since with the recent incident at Dhaka.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#7984: Nov 6th 2016 at 12:14:19 PM

X-posting from military thread:

SAS in Iraq given 'kill list' of 200 British jihadis to take out

British special forces in Iraq have reportedly been handed a list of 200 British jihadis to kill before they attempt to return to Britain.

SAS soldiers have been told to “use whatever means possible” to kill or capture the militants, according to the Sunday Times.

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#7985: Nov 6th 2016 at 12:21:30 PM

Whatever happened to those old card deck dealies? Do we still do that?

Oh really when?
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#7987: Nov 7th 2016 at 1:24:49 PM

Bulletproof BMW Used to Rescue Dozens During ISIS Attack: https://www.yahoo.com/news/bulletproof-bmw-used-rescue-dozens-004144213.html

In the ongoing war against ISIS in the Middle East, one Kurdish Peshmerga fighter put his life—and his BMW—on the line to protect a city against a terrorist attack.

Using an early-'90s armored BMW he purchased four months prior to the October 21 attack, a Peshmerga soldier named Ako Rahman rescued dozens of citizens wounded or trapped by snipers in Kirkuk—a city in the Kurdish controlled region of Iraq.

"After we arrived at the scene, we saw many wounded individuals among the security forces and civilians and no one was able to approach them due to the IS snipers. Therefore we decided to help those wounded people since bullets could not penetrate my car," Rahman told Kurdish news outlet Bas News.

Over the course of the attack, which lasted several days, Rahman used his bulletproof sedan to transport 70 injured people to the hospital, encountering gunfire throughout the mission.

“There are marks from 50 to 60 bullets on the body of my car and many of them hit the front and the windshield of the car," Rahman told Kurdish news outlet Rudaw.

Governor Dr. Najmaldin Karim presented the Peshmerga fighter with an award of 500,000 Iraqi dinars ($385) on November 1. BMW reportedly wanted to honor Rahman a bit more for his bravery and sacrifice. The German auto manufacturer offered him a brand new BMW in exchange for the bullet ridden E32, which it planned on displaying on its corporate campus. He declined the offer and instead it would be given to Sulaymaniyah, a local Kurdish museum.

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#7988: Nov 7th 2016 at 5:51:12 PM

[up]Good for him. That beemer will mean more where it's ended up than it would being a trophy back at headquarters. smile

edited 7th Nov '16 5:51:48 PM by Euodiachloris

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#7989: Nov 8th 2016 at 4:05:02 AM

Islamic State brutality comes to light after military advance: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-mosul-executions-idUSKBN1322CH

From behind the curtains of his bedroom window, 29-year-old Riyad Ahmed would peer out at Islamic State fighters dragging civilians into a makeshift jail across the street and then sending them in the middle of the night to be executed.

The former English teacher from the town of Hammam al-Alil, south of the jihadists' Mosul stronghold, recalls hearing victims' cries of agony as he hid with dozens of neighbors in the shadow of one of the group's detention centers.

"The devil himself would be astounded by Daesh's methods of torture. It is beyond the imagination," said Ahmed, using an Arabic acronym for Islamic State.

Iraq's army and federal police, participating in a U.S.-backed offensive launched last month to recapture the largest population center under the jihadists' control, retook this area over the weekend.

As the forces advance, details of Islamic State's brutality and growing desperation, which have trickled out of its self-proclaimed caliphate over the past two years, are being reinforced by first-hand accounts of residents.

Standing on the road between his house and the jail on Monday, Ahmed told Reuters that no part of Hammam al-Alil had been spared from the ultra-hardline Sunni Islamists' violence.

In his street alone, he said six people he knew had been executed, including his father and a family of three that lived next door.

Aid organizations, local officials and Mosul residents have cited reports that Islamic State executed dozens of people in Hammam al-Alil and barracks nearby over the course of a week, on suspicion of planning rebellions in and around Mosul to aid the advancing troops.

Abdul Rahman al-Waggaa, a member of the Nineveh provincial council, told Reuters last month that most of the victims were former police and army members.

Islamic State had used the town's agricultural college as "a killing field" for hundreds of people in the days before the Iraqi government advance, Ahmed said.

"They would torture them inside and then take them out of the neighborhood and either shoot them or slit their throats."

Police backed up his accounts, but the road to the college was still lined with improvised explosive devices (IE Ds) on Monday, preventing Reuters from visiting.

The military says its forces at the complex have discovered the decapitated corpses of at least 100 civilians.

HIDING

The jail opposite Ahmed's house was once the home of an army officer who fled Islamic State's blitz across a third of Iraq's territory in 2014. Its walls are covered in soot from a fire apparently set by fleeing fighters, but metal cages only slightly larger than an adult male are still intact.

Ahmed, who learned English when U.S. forces occupied Iraq for nine years after toppling Saddam Hussein in 2003, was delighted to speak to a foreign reporter after two years during which he feared he would be killed for using English.

"We have been living in hell, like zombies," he said.

Residents still in Hammam al-Alil on Monday told how they packed into homes with nearly 100 other people each for days to avoid being forced to flee to Mosul as Islamic State retreated.

"They didn't know we were here. We didn't make a sound. No lights, no sound, no speaking at all," said Ahmed.

His family had stored food to avoid going outside but everyone lost weight, he said. Using the bathroom was a challenge.

As the town's remaining residents emerged from their homes on Monday, neighbors greeted each other for the first time in many days.

An army lieutenant, back in Hammam al-Alil after taking refuge on a mountain for more than a week following the escalation of executions of security personnel, said he witnessed Islamic State kill people in a nearby field.

Thousands of civilians, including many from villages further south who had been forced to serve as human shields for the jihadists, escaped to government camps over the weekend while others were forced deeper into Islamic State-held territory.

"If the forces had come just a few days later, we would be in Mosul now. Daesh wanted to take us," said Ahmed.

Others were not so lucky.

Tariq, an engineering student, said he had barricaded himself inside his home with dozens of neighbors for four days before Islamic State fled, refusing fighters' demands to leave with them.

At one point, he said, the fighters had donned army fatigues and managed to trick a few families into believing they were arriving Iraqi forces. When the civilians went out to greet them, Tariq said, they were executed.

"Even a one-year-old baby, they put a bullet in his head."

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#7990: Nov 8th 2016 at 8:54:30 AM

... Why do we still treat these monsters as if they deserve to have human rights?

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#7991: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:01:24 AM

We are? I mean, the few that survive capture are being carted off to Iraqi prisoners (where a lot of them are being sentenced to hang). The higher ups are probably kept for interrogation before being to sent to show trials (either locally, or the ICC if we get a few big wigs), but the rest are nailed by the judge, jury and executioner of whatever country is launching air strikes today.

The only people who are (hopefully) being treated with mercy are the child soldiers and the conscripts that have been forced into them. Very few groups are complaining about the air strikes, or even the Iraqis/the Kurds pulling the occasional retaliatory massacre. The problem is when the targets extend to the local population.

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#7992: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:10:07 AM

What I mean is that AFAIK, apparently most people are still going to flip their shits out if the USAF ever decided to napalm-bomb one of Daesh's convoys/strongholds even if they meticulously confirmed that there are zero civilians or child soldiers within the vicinity. The way I see it, if someone flagrantly commits war crimes and other crimes against humanity upon unarmed civilians despite the victims never actually proving to be a threat, then the laws of war's protections should be lifted against them (and only them). Open season on all of them, I say. They want to act like rabid animals? Then they should die like rabid animals.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7993: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:14:02 AM

Problem is that, after they got the Highway of Death treatment fleeing Ramadi (IIRC), ISIS rarely retreats in the open without human shields. The US led coalition is already bombing what is technically a group of criminals (they'll never designate a terror group a military target for obvious reasons) without any due process other than some recon.

And critics will always exist. You'll still find people who defend the Kim dynasty or Pol Pot, or see their enemies as "going too far".

edited 8th Nov '16 9:15:25 AM by Rationalinsanity

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#7994: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:28:53 AM

they'll never designate a terror group a military target for obvious reasons
They're not obvious to me. Could you explain?

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#7995: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:30:04 AM

Gives them legitimacy and then there's also a lot of legal stuff involved regarding rules of engagement and so on.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7996: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:30:50 AM

Designating a group like ISIS or AQ as a military threat effectively means giving them status as a semi-recognized state actor. That's why they'll always be terrorists or insurgents to the rest of the world.

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#7997: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:33:59 AM

They get protections under the laws of war, so POW status if captured, they can't be torutured, etc...

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#7998: Nov 8th 2016 at 9:35:18 AM

Thanks.

We need a return of the "hostis humani generis" label.

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#7999: Nov 8th 2016 at 10:10:33 AM

Nope. There's a damned good reason that label went away; its very existence is a violation of human rights.

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#8000: Nov 8th 2016 at 10:27:47 AM

These guys are criminals against mankind, when you pile up this level of atrocities, you forfeit your right to call yourself human.

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