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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#7826: Sep 7th 2016 at 4:18:25 AM

That's the left for you.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#7827: Sep 7th 2016 at 7:24:03 AM

Who are "the left" in this context?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
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#7828: Sep 7th 2016 at 7:27:39 AM

[up]Left-leaning Filipino political parties.

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#7829: Sep 7th 2016 at 7:28:31 AM

Also the New People's Army via legal reps like Jose Maria Sison, whose position is very hazy according to him.

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The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#7830: Sep 7th 2016 at 12:15:50 PM

I don't know what "left" and "right" mean anymore.

I'm just going to say "ambidextrous" from now on.

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#7831: Sep 7th 2016 at 2:18:35 PM

Iraq expels Saudi ambassador for refusing to denounce cousin who died fighting for Daesh: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-saudi-arabia-isis-a7230121.html

Iraq has expelled its first Saudi Arabian ambassador in a quarter of a century over his refusal to condemn his cousin, who has died while fighting for extremist group Isis.

Abdel-Salaam Al-Subhan was killed two weeks ago in fighting near Mosul, authorities said.

Ambassador Thamer Al-Subhan allegedly refused to denounce the actions of his cousin in joining the terror organisation, which still claims parts of northern Iraq as part of its territory.

Graphic photos allegedly of the body of the dead man appeared on social media, but could not be immediately verified.

The incident, which came on top of apparent claims that Shia militias fighting Isis were causing sectarian divisions in Iraq, and were plotting to assassinate him, led to a formal request from the Iraqi government to Riyadh to remove Al-Subhan from his post.

Al-Sabhan, appointed last year, was the first Saudi ambassador to be posted to Iraq for 25 years. Riyadh closed its embassy in the country in 1990, after former president Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Relations had remained strained since.

Baghdad has formally requested that Riyadh send another diplomat to take up the post, it was reported.

“Frankly I tried to fulfill my duties… Saudi Arabia’s policies in Iraq will not change,” Sabhan said in an interview with Saudi-owned al-Arabiya television on Sunday.

On Wednesday Saudi authorities said they have not taken steps to move Al-Sabhan yet.

“The call to replace the ambassador will not affect, from our side, the present or future of these relations, and in fact we look forward to positive developments,” said foreign ministry spokesperson Ahmad Jamal. Saudi Arabia is keen to develop relationship with Iraq as a "good neighbour", he added.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#7832: Sep 8th 2016 at 1:20:43 PM

Here's an article stating that Daesh wants Trump to win, because he's empowered all sorts of bigotry against Muslims, which could drive up their recruit numbers.

If that isn't a reason to vote against Trump, I don't know what is.

edited 8th Sep '16 1:22:30 PM by speedyboris

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7833: Sep 8th 2016 at 1:23:10 PM

It's been known for a long time that the far right are great at recruiting for ISIS and their ilk.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#7834: Sep 8th 2016 at 2:45:00 PM

[up] I know, but this is the first article I've personally read that explicitly had Daesh say, "Yes, we want Trump to win."

edited 8th Sep '16 2:45:14 PM by speedyboris

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#7835: Sep 8th 2016 at 2:50:43 PM

"If you vote for Trump, the terrorists win!" would put quite a few on the extreme right into an existential crisis.

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Beware the Crazy Man.
#7836: Sep 8th 2016 at 4:50:36 PM

Only if they believed it. Most would just say its media lies.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#7837: Sep 8th 2016 at 4:54:42 PM

[up]At least until Trump starts pleading for Daesh to kill his political opponents........and some guy who talked smack about him the other night.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#7838: Sep 8th 2016 at 6:31:57 PM

http://in.reuters.com/article/europe-attacks-france-cazeneuve-idINKCN11E2VP

Three women arrested on Thursday in connection with a car laden with gas cannisters that was found abandonned near Paris' Notre Dame cathedral were likely planning an imminent attack, French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said.

"These three women aged 39, 23 and 19 had been radicalised, were fanatics and were in all likelihood preparing an imminent, violent act," Cazeneuve said in a televised statement.

The interior minister said one of the detained women had stabbed a police officer during the operation before being shot and wounded.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#7839: Sep 8th 2016 at 6:35:52 PM

Ah jeez. I was there a week ago on vacation.


Anyway, news on the Colombian peace process has peeps critical on FARC guerrillas who would be granted amnesty, especially by those who committed criminal or terrorist activities that aren't a part of their cause such as drug trafficking. Analysts suggested the use of a Truth and Reconcilation committee to weed out the ranks and see who really used the movement for criminal motives and those who wanted political change.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#7840: Sep 8th 2016 at 7:31:25 PM

Hopefully that process also goes after the military and the pro government militias.

edited 8th Sep '16 7:31:40 PM by Rationalinsanity

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#7841: Sep 9th 2016 at 5:56:17 AM

The militias maybe. Not sure on the army and the police unless the people want it...

Lopiny Since: May, 2011
#7842: Sep 9th 2016 at 6:56:31 AM

Well, if there's something I know about Colombia right now is that the aforementioned people are pissed, so perhaps it'll happen if they make an even greater fuss. Then again, it'll need to be big because the government isn't really too intent on doing that.

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#7843: Sep 9th 2016 at 7:41:32 AM

At some point the recriminations have to stop, they have to. The goal of any Truth and Reconciliation commission is to avoid the "my father/grandfather/great uncle/my cat has a feud with your father/grandfather/family/dog so I will kill you till you die from it!".

FARC was a bunch of dirtbags, but they are Deader Than Disco: the marxism was a fig leaf towards the end, they were mostly narcos. At least this gives Columbia some peace and de-fangs FARC. FARC will become a political party and then just be part of the scenery.

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#7844: Sep 9th 2016 at 5:02:57 PM

The only thing people are wondering in Colombia is that the ELN is quiet recently on the peace talks.

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#7845: Sep 10th 2016 at 1:08:03 AM

From The Daily Beast: That One Time U.S. Spies Thought Al Qaeda Was Ready to Nuke D.C.

On Christmas Eve 2003, Gen. Michael Hayden, the director of the secretive U.S. National Security Agency, made a secure phone call to his British counterpart, David Pepper, the director of the Government Communications Headquarters.

“Happy Christmas, David,” Hayden said, speaking to Pepper from NSA headquarters at Ft. Meade, Md., about 20 miles from the Capitol in Washington, DC. Such social calls weren’t unusual. The NSA and GCHQ were the closest of allies in a global hunt for the phone calls, emails, and other electronic communications of spies and terrorists.

But Hayden had more on his mind than season’s greetings. In recent days, the NSA had been collecting what Hayden would later describe as a “massive amount of chatter”—phone calls and emails from terrorists—that suggested al Qaeda was planning multiple attacks inside the United States, timed to the holidays.

“One more thing, David,” Hayden said after the two men exchanged pleasantries. “We actually feel a bit under threat here. And so I’ve told my liaison to your office that should there be catastrophic loss at Ft. Meade, we are turning the functioning of the American [signals intelligence] system over to GCHQ.”

There was a long pause as Pepper absorbed what his American colleague had just told him.

The word “catastrophic” suggested some event that would destroy the NSA’s headquarters, which housed the computer equipment that made sense of all that chatter streaming in through U.S. sensors, listening posts, and computer implants. The only reason to turn over that signals intelligence system—something that had never been done—would be if the NSA was no longer capable of performing its mission.

“Mike,” Pepper inquired, “Do you guys know something we don’t?”

Hayden thought they did.

Amid that massive amount of chatter, NSA officials and others were seeing the same threat made repeatedly: that al Qaeda terrorists were planning to detonate a nuclear device in or around Washington, DC.

The intelligence wasn’t specific enough to guide officials to a bomb. But the threat was also too significant to ignore.

“Intelligence said there was very likely” a nuclear device that “could affect command and control systems in Washington,” a former U.S. official who was directly involved in efforts to verify the intelligence and prepare for a possible detonation told The Daily Beast. “The concern was that it would be catastrophic.”

The 2003 nuclear threat, which has received almost no public attention in the years since, was described to The Daily Beast by three former U.S. officials, two of whom were privy to contemporaneous intelligence on the matter and were working frantically on efforts to determine whether there really was a nuclear device hidden in the United States or on its way here. Four other former officials also described intelligence reporting in the same period that alerted officials to a different threat against commercial airliners. Collectively, all said this was the period of highest anxiety since 9/11, a moment when some in the U.S. government were all but convinced that al Qaeda was poised to strike at any moment.

The intelligence about a possible nuclear attack was taken seriously enough that teams of inspectors from the Energy Department fanned out in several major U.S. cities, including Washington, Los Angeles, and New York carrying radiation detection equipment concealed in luggage.

“I didn’t even go home that Christmas,” said a second former official who was monitoring reports from the detection teams. “There was all kinds of intelligence, targeting different cities.”

The inspectors “were trying to figure out, is there some credibility to this information,” the first former official said. “It was taken as very significant, because if it was true we’d have a lot of bases to cover.”

At Ft. Meade, that meant preparing for the worst. Losing the ability to analyze global communications was “unthinkable” for Hayden, the former official said. Then, and now, signals intelligence are the primary source of information about terrorists and their plots. If Ft. Meade were destroyed, the entire U.S. security apparatus would be crippled.

“David, just a precaution,” Hayden told his counterpart. “But if we go down, you run the show.”

Hayden described his fears of a “catastrophic” attack and his plan to hand over direction of signals intelligence to the British in his recent memoir, Playing to the Edge, and he also recalled the story in greater detail at a book talk in March. But his remarkable account appears to have gone unnoticed by the press and most of the public.

In his book and public remarks, Hayden never mentioned intelligence that suggested a nuclear device might be in play. In an interview with The Daily Beast, he said “I just don’t remember” what the specific nature of the threat was, though he vividly recalled every other detail of his unprecedented planning and conversations with Pepper.

Hayden did allow, however, that he was worried that a large explosion could be set off on Maryland Route 32, the state highway that runs “right by some key buildings” at Ft. Meade, and effectively take the agency offline.

But it wasn’t just NSA computers that Hayden was worried about. He emphasized that in asking Pepper to take over, he intended GCHQ to assume “direction” of U.S. signals intelligence—that is, the job of the director, Hayden, who in the event of a massive explosion might be dead.

The first former official confirmed that as part of Hayden’s worst-case-scenario planning, he presumed he would no longer be around to give orders.

For officials trying to make sense of the threat, the lack of specificity contained in the chatter was frustrating. And the volume of information set people on edge.

Multiple “streams” of intelligence all seemed to point to some plot, though no one could say for sure how it would happen. Was the device already in the country? Was it going to be shipped in through a port or over a land border? And was the device a traditional nuclear weapon or a “dirty-bomb,” a conventional explosive that would disperse radioactive material and potentially render whole city blocks uninhabitable?

“As we looked at the reports, we thought, ‘Wow, if we read this right, this could come at us a lot of ways,’” the first former official said.

Experts were divided over whether al Qaeda really had the mix of talent and resources to obtain a nuclear device. A third former official said that in the months preceding the holiday scare, lawmakers and intelligence officials had debated the matter in closed-door sessions, and that many considered it an urgent question. “It was very clear there was a lot of anxiety around nukes or dirty nukes, and there were interagency debates about al Qaeda’s capabilities,” the former official said. “Some pooh-poohed the idea that anyone but a government could obtain a weapon. Others said, ‘No, no, it’s possible.’”

Among those who thought this way, even the slightest shred of credible intelligence was taken seriously, the former official said. And within that camp, another debate emerged. Would terrorists smuggle the device into the United States? Or was it possible that al Qaeda had already deployed or recruited agents in the country to build the bomb here?

Against that backdrop of uncertain possibilities, threat intelligence started streaming in around mid-December, mainly from intercepted phone calls and emails, that seemed to fit with al Qaeda’s nuclear ambitions.

“We knew that al Qaeda was trying hard to obtain a weapon,” the first former official said. “There was a plausible theory, and there was evidence to support that theory.” Given the stakes, and the risk of losing a major portion of U.S. spying, Hayden had little choice but to prepare for the worst.

Hayden’s plan made sense. The GCHQ is the closest technological analog to the NSA. “It’s not like this was something they couldn’t handle,” Hayden told The Daily Beast. The British and the Americans not only share information, but they each possess a formidable, global-intelligence gathering system.

There was also no one else to take the baton in the United States. At the time of the holiday threat, the NSA was building an alternate facility, a kind of mini-backup of the site at Ft. Meade that was far away enough from Washington to avoid an attack, but also not so far that it couldn’t be reached by key personnel within a few hours. (Former officials declined to say where the facility was located.)

The facility was designed to handle about 80 percent of NSA’s mission but in a much smaller physical space, Hayden said. But as of December 2003, it still wasn’t fully up and running.

“We were also pushing a lot of missions out to the RSO Cs,” Hayden said, referring to the NSA’s regional operations centers, in Texas, Hawaii, and Georgia. “But that wasn’t complete, either.”

That left Ft. Meade as the only U.S. location that could fully perform the critical signals intelligence mission. “It was closer to a single point of failure than we wanted it to be,” Hayden said. “Since we hadn’t done all our dispersal [to the alternate sites] and were still vulnerable, the next best thing was to contact the British.”

The public knew nothing about nuclear inspection teams or doomsday prepping at Ft. Meade, but even from the outside, the world appeared more dangerous than usual.

At the White House, the CIA, and the barely-year-old Homeland Security Department, top officials and their analysts were busy tracking another stream of intelligence that suggested imminent attacks against airliners. Security concerns led to at least 15 flight cancellations on aircraft bound from France, the United Kingdom, and Mexico, stranding anxious holiday travelers.

On December 22, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge had announced the national terror alert was being raised to its second-highest level, owing to a “substantial increase” in reports pointing to “near-term attacks that could either rival or exceed what we experienced on September 11.” Ridge told the public that security was being enhanced at airports as well as “around other transportation systems and infrastructure,” and that border patrol agents and the Coast Guard were being dispatched to monitor seaports and land border crossings.

Was Homeland Security also worried that al Qaeda might smuggle a device into the United States? The focus on land borders was notable, at least in hindsight, in light of a claim eight months later from a captured al Qaeda operative named Sharif al-Masri, who told his CIA interrogators that al Qaeda had intended to “transport a nuclear device or material…to the United States, possibly via Mexico,” according to a declassified Justice Department memo.The claim also seemed to fit with the intelligence community’s broader assessment that al Qaeda was trying to obtain a nuke.

At the White House, reporters pressed for more details about suspected terror plots. Americans were told to go about their plans, but as always, remain vigilant. Despite these public warnings, and the obvious fears about airplane attacks, the suspected nuclear threat was never revealed. It also appears to have been known only by a few people even within senior ranks of the U.S. government. Three former high-level officials who worked on the airliner threat, including one at the White House, said they had no recollection of a nuclear weapons scare or of Hayden’s plans with GCHQ.

They all remembered the airliner threat, and specifically that al Qaeda would try to crash planes in the U.S., as it had on 9/11, or blow them up mid-air. The CIA developed a particularly novel theory that al Qaeda was telling its operatives which international flights to attack by sending coded messages in the “crawl” at the bottom of Al Jazeera’s television news broadcasts.

“Hayden actually seemed somewhat skeptical of this threat,” a former White House official told The Daily Beast. “These [NSA] guys knows something about steganography,” the practice of concealing messages within text that isn’t secret. “The technical guys were all sitting around the table kind of rolling their eyes when the CIA guys were talking about it.”

“That would be a true story,” Hayden told The Daily Beast. “We just didn’t see it. There was no evidence that would cause us to” think it was accurate.

But then, what was the evidence that led some to believe that the nuclear threat might be real? The experts at the NSA may have been able to discount coded messages on television, but no one could say with certainty that there wasn’t a nuclear device hiding somewhere in Washington. Ultimately, the intelligence was startling and maddeningly vague; as it often was, and is. In the end, the worst fears turned out to have been based on intelligence that wasn’t credible, the former official said.

Those Energy Department teams who fanned out across the country in search of an al Qaeda nuke found nothing but a shiny, cylindrical radium pellet, used to treat uterine cancer, that had been picked up years earlier by a homeless man and stashed in a rented storage locker in Las Vegas. (The Washington Post, which reported the discovery, was also the first and only publication to note that the inspectors had been dispatched during the holiday scare. But the newspaper’s account, which seems to have gone almost entirely unnoticed, said that the inspectors were sent because of “the belief among officials” that al Qaeda was eager to obtain a nuclear device. In fact, the intelligence suggested the terror group might already have one, the former officials told The Daily Beast.)

No one knew at the time that the leads would go nowhere or that the frightening reporting would turn out to be baseless, or maybe just bluster by al Qaeda operatives trying to sow the seeds of confusion. Still, the 2003 holiday scare stands out as one of the most dangerous periods since the 9/11 attacks, even if the threat was merely perceived and not real.

Many of the people who spent their holidays wondering when the attack might come hadn’t talked about the story in years. The plane threat and the nuclear scare had faded into the annals of myriad plots that never materialized. The chatter, once deafening, dropped to a murmur and was soon drowned out by a new chorus when the Homeland Security Department warned just a few months later that signs once again pointed to an attack.

Had officials come forward and shared their worst fears with the American public, it’s not clear what good would have come of it. No one in government could say for sure where the device might be located. Imagined fears of a devastating nuclear attack would be quickly superseded by the real threat of mass panic.

But security fatigue was also on the rise. By late 2003, a palpable skepticism greeted the Bush administration’s warnings about orange terror alerts and “near-term” attacks that could rival 9/11. The next summer, the terror alert was again raised to orange before the Democratic National Convention, and the president’s opponents accused him of conjuring up vague threats to scare voters into re-electing him, rather than taking a chance on his Democratic rival. Even Ridge, the homeland security secretary, would later write in his memoir that he was pressured to ratchet up the alert level on the eve of the 2004 election.

No doubt Hayden and others have factored all this and more into their own thinking. When warning about a vague, mysterious threat can make you seem paranoid or mendacious, the best bet is often to keep quiet. That’s probably why many stories of near-misses and false alarms in the past 15 years of a war on terrorism have gone unreported.

Hayden chose not to talk about the 2003 threat until he published a book, and his critics will surely detect some opportunism there. They have excoriated him for his leadership of the NSA’s Stellar Wind program, which secretly monitored communications of millions of Americans, and have said he tried to whitewash the CIA’s torture of terrorism suspects after he became the director of that agency.

But occasionally, behind the chatter that we’ve come to anticipate—and often ignore—someone decides to take it seriously. On Christmas Eve 2003, that was Hayden, who said he opted to follow the simple maxim, better safe than sorry.

“In retrospect, we were probably being too cautious and too alarmist,” Hayden said of his plan to hand off signals intelligence to GCHQ. But the 9/11 attacks two years earlier had permanently altered his perspective. On the evening of Sept. 11, 2001, after sending all non-essential agency employees home, Hayden ordered that black-out curtains be tacked up in NSA’s glass windows. That’s standard procedure for protecting buildings during an air raid. As the sun went down that day, Hayden thought his building might still be a target. Two years later, he still did.

“9/11 was a surprise,” Hayden said. And he was done with surprises.

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#7846: Sep 10th 2016 at 7:00:54 AM

Update on the Notre Dame cathedral case. PN found incriminating evidence that one of the suspects pledged his support to ISIS and to carry out attacks in France.

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#7848: Sep 13th 2016 at 1:40:38 PM

Opinion: The new face of terrorism — from the grand to the mundane

TIME FLIES, AND so, unfortunately, do terrorists. This Sunday marks the 15th anniversary of 9/11, the day when 19 young men armed with box cutters took control of four crowded commercial aircraft, flying two into the twin towers of the World Trade Center and a third into the Pentagon. A fourth aircraft never reached its destination, as the alerted passengers took matters into their own hands, overpowering the terrorists and forcing a crash landing in an open field in Pennsylvania.

Sept. 11, 2001, was unique in the sense of its scale; otherwise it was anything but. Terrorism has become commonplace. Over the last decade, there have been, on average, more than 10,000 terrorist attacks per year, causing an average of more than 15,000 deaths per year. Most of these have been in the Greater Middle East, both the biggest source and the most common venue of terrorism.

Relatively little of this terrorism has involved Americans. Over this same decade, there have been fewer than 15 terrorist attacks a year in the United States. An average of five Americans per year have died on US soil and approximately 20 per year have lost their lives worldwide.

It is in part for this reason that Vice President Joe Biden recently argued that it is important not to lose perspective. “Terrorism can cause real problems. It can undermine confidence. It can kill relatively large numbers of people. But terrorism is not an existential threat.”

Biden went on to list some of the threats he judged to be existential, including Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, and the danger of “loose nukes,” meaning nuclear weapons that one way or another come into the hands of terrorists.

As is often the case with the vice president, what he said raised some eyebrows, possibly because he seemed to be downplaying the threat of terrorism. It was certainly out of step with the thinking of many Americans, who in a national survey taken in August ranked terrorism second only to the economy and ahead of health care when asked what issues mattered most to them.

The statistics, though, support Biden, at least thus far. What buttresses his position is that the United States has many of the tools needed to limit the impact of traditional terrorism, including the ability to attack terrorists with a range of weapons, from drones to special operations forces, share intelligence so attacks are less likely, discourage or prevent individuals from joining known organizations, cut off financial resources, harden potential targets, and build up the internal security capacities of friendly countries as well as our own — something that, among other things, requires a high degree of collaboration and information-sharing among organizations and agencies within and between governments.

This situation could change quickly, though, in one of two ways. One was suggested by Biden himself — namely, if terrorists were to gain custody of a nuclear weapon or a significant amount of nuclear material that, if combined with a traditional explosive, could create a “dirty bomb” that could trigger mass panic and render a limited area all but uninhabitable. Such “grand terrorism” has for decades been the nightmare of many strategic thinkers.

A second scenario could hardly be more different. Rather than grand, it could be described as everyday or even mundane. It would be the terrorism of retail actions that could be carried out by individuals or small groups, and that could happen anywhere at any time. Every shopping mall, every movie theater, every street corner or subway could become a venue. Weapons could range from guns to knives, to cars and trucks driven into crowds, as was the case recently in Nice. The threat in this case would not be to our physical existence, but it would be to our way of life. This too could be considered existential.

Eradicating or preventing all terrorism is not possible, since there will always be individuals with motive and means to carry it out. What is possible, though, is to limit what terrorists can achieve. This argues for doing all that can be done to reduce the chances of and prospects for existential terrorism.

Alas, this is easier said than done. Stopping grand terrorism requires close cooperation with other governments who possess nuclear weapons and materials. The biggest problems are likely to be Pakistan, headed by a weak government that hosts many of the world’s most dangerous terrorists and that also happens to have the world’s fastest growing nuclear arsenal, as well as North Korea and Iran. In the case of Pakistan, this danger argues for pushing for a ceiling on further nuclear growth, for helping the government maintain control of what weapons it has, and readying military plans for what might be done if it appeared control over nuclear weapons was about to be lost. For North Korea, the regime needs to be made to understand the enormous costs that would accrue to it if it were to transfer nuclear materials or weapons to another entity. For Iran, the goal of policy must be to preclude it from acquiring nuclear weapons. Preventing grand terrorism also argues for placing a greater emphasis on securing nuclear materials here at home, including those widely used in hospitals.

Mundane terrorism, by its nature, is even tougher to contend with. It is often home-grown, inspired more than directed — meaning there is a limit to what intelligence and law enforcement are likely to be in a position to detect and prevent. What would help here is deep social integration of minority populations such as Arab and Muslim Americans and building extensive ties to community leaders so they intervene in the lives of troubled youth and cooperate with law enforcement. The goal must be to delegitimize such behavior and to be in a position to learn about it and prevent it if it is being planned.

There is no choice but to deal with all three kinds of terror: traditional, grand, and mundane. We also need to be realists. Terrorism will happen sometimes despite our best efforts. This argues for resilience in addition to all else. This may require some compromise on privacy for individuals in order to promote collective security, but this is a price worth paying, since the threat to democracy would quickly become far greater if existential terrorism were to become a reality.

Richard Haass is president of the Council of Foreign Relations and author of “A World in Disarray,” to be published in January.

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#7849: Sep 14th 2016 at 4:45:21 AM

Women have a surprising role in ISIS networks

“If at first it appeared that women were confined to family and domestic chores by the Daesh terrorist organization, it must be noted that this view is now completely outdated,” François Molins, a French prosecutor, told reporters in announcing the arrests.

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#7850: Sep 15th 2016 at 6:35:53 AM

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/show-face-cops-muslims-philippine-city-ordered-115621717.html

In the wake of the bombing attack in Davao, Mayor Sara Duterte is ordering the female Muslim community to have hijabs that conceals their hair.


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