Does Disney have an identity in this current generation?

An insider from the LP boards (though it's questionable how much he actually knows) has mentioned that Disney were disappointed in Wreck-it-Ralph's overseas grosses. Indeed, it did make a lot less than Tangled outside the US. Anyway, people were too quick to assume that there would be a sequel, there was talk about it from the director and cast but it remained speculation. WDAS is also the least likely animation studio to make sequels though how much this has to do with their films' comparitive lack of financial success since the new millennium I don't know. Maybe they are following the Pixar model of making sequels more than 10 years later.

I really don't consider Fantasia 2000 or Winnie the Pooh to be sequels given that chronology is meaningless in both films, especially in Fantasia. The Rescuers Down Under is exceptional though and better than the original which was very good as well. The two Rescuers films had a vastly different tone though, pretty much the only thing connecting the two being the basic premise and the presence of Bernard and Bianca.

edited 13th Jul '13 12:42:37 AM by qindarka

Dogman

After The three Caballeros (which is kind of a sequel to Saludos Amigos), Disney decided that the Studio shouldn't make any more sequels, ever. That was part of the reason why the cheapquels were so grating, I bet Disney was spinning in his grave. Concerning Wreck-it-Ralph overseas grossing: I wanted to watch the movie, and it was really a challenge to do so (I eventually went on a Sunday morning alone). For some reason, none of the theatres nearby showed it in a decent timeslot, the last showing was in the afternoon. Tangled was shown in the evening, too, meaning the time around which a lot of people just go to the centre and then decide spontaneous which movie they watch. This might have something to do with why it was more successful.

Where did you hear about the post-Big Hero 6 movies?

edited 13th Jul '13 4:00:46 PM by TommyX

The one about Animals and Monoa sound interesting.

"Where did you hear about the post-Big Hero 6 movies?"

The news was broken by Honor Hunter from Blue Sky Disney who is privy to inside information, among other things he was the first to reveal the existence of Big Hero 6.

Disney ordered him to take down the article but the info can still be found here:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/front-page-comic-news/72164-fresh-details-new-disney-toons-zootopia-giants-moana-more.html

Of course, that doesn't mean they will definitely come out, they are still fairly early into development and shelving projects when they have trouble making it work at this stage are not uncommon (as was the case with King of the Elves and earlier versions of The Snow Queen).

Dogman

Well, I'm always up for another Musker and Clements film. As for the rest, we'll just wait and see.

I am very much looking forward to Moana! I just hope it isn't shelved like Me And My Shadow!

Wasn't Disney going to produce their adaptation of Rumplestiltskin?

"Wasn't Disney going to produce their adaptation of Rumplestiltskin?"

No, that was always a bogus rumour.

Dogman

Ugh.

And those pining for a sequel to ''Wreck-It Ralph"? Disney almost NEVER produces sequels to begin with, so automatically the chance of it is barely none. Which may not be in their favor- sequels are now one of the most common money-grabbing business strategies.

I hate how movie studios raise their own expectations higher and higher to the point where anything a TINY bit below it is cause for panic and a massive flux in creative direction.

"I hate how movie studios raise their own expectations higher and higher to the point where anything a TINY bit below it is cause for panic and a massive flux in creative direction."

Eh, who exactly are you referring to here?

And isn't it a good thing that WDAS are avoiding sequels?

Sorry if this post doesn't make sense, I didn't really understand the point your post was making.

edited 15th Jul '13 8:56:44 AM by qindarka

Dogman

Disney was "disappointed in Wreck-It Ralph's performance overseas". Gee, Disney. Look at how it performed HERE!!!!!! Does that not satisfy you?! Does every studio need to make sure their films and appreciated on a universal level and earn more than in the USA in order to stay in business??

edited 15th Jul '13 8:59:51 AM by kyun

I don't see any indication that they had a massive flux in creative direction though. They are still proceeding with Big Hero 6, the concept of Moana had also been known about for a while now. Greno and Howard were in all likelihood working on Zootopia right after Tangled came out before Greno went off on his own project.

They still seem to be proceeding with 'modern' animated films such as Wreck-it-Ralph in addition to their more traditional ones in the vein of Tangled.

edited 15th Jul '13 10:04:09 AM by qindarka

Dogman

Er, maybe not anymore, like, for the past two to five years (depending on your definition of sequel), but you have seen Disney's output from 1994 through at least 2008, right? (And that link even leaves out The Tigger Movie (2000), Return To Never Land (2002), The Jungle Book 2 (2003), Piglets Big Movie (2003), Poohs Heffalump Movie (2005)...)

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We are referring to Walt Disney Animation Studios, not Disney in general. Those sequels were made by Disney Toons.

Dogman

Either way, the implication seemed to be the avoidance of sequels in generally, which has hardly historically been the case for the company in general.

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Well, I am talking about the films in the Disney Animated Canon, produced by Walt Disney Feature Animation and later by Disney Animation Studios. The countless Pooh movies do not count aside from 2011's Winnie-The-Pooh. There was also The Rescuers Down Under, but that was an exception.

edited 15th Jul '13 11:41:53 AM by kyun

Plus, Disney promised, PROMISED, after they - rearranged - their board of directors that they wouldn't be any more cheapquels...they are already sneaking around this with "Planes", but I would be very upset if they started to make more of this damaging things for one of the real classics.

Is Planes really at all related to Cars, though, similar concept (and, I assume, marketing) aside?

edited 15th Jul '13 12:13:27 PM by 0dd1

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Planes has nothing to do with the Disney Animation Studios or Pixar. It's outsourced to an Indian studio, and it was originally going to be direct-to-video anyway. So that doesn't count.

I thought it still was going to be DTV?

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No, it is now going to be release IN THEATERS.

;__;

It comes very close to being cheapquel exactly because it's done neither by the animation studios nor Pixar. And really, a theatrical release? Urgh!

edited 15th Jul '13 1:00:01 PM by swanpride

In the USA at least.

Doesn't matter if it's limited or not, if it's not good (and most likely it won't keep up at least concerning animation), it will damage the brand.

Apparently, Planes was promoted to a theatrical release due to very positive reception from test audiences. I doubt it will be great but I think that it will be a lot better received than most are expecting.

Dogman