Shin Megami Tensei IV *SPOILERS ABOUND*

You gotta admit though, it's showing much more dedication than just using a cane to look feeble. A wheelchair fakeout takes dedication!

He had a scientist guise early on that could walk. He was around long enough to be part of the Hunter's Association and everything in that form.

Poor SJ Guy◊.

Pascal-Cerberus is one of my favorite things in the world.

Oh, hey, I realized that since they're both playable demons in this one, it is now possible to see Satan and Mastema in the same room. There goes that theory I guess.

Though in various other games you can see Vishnu and Rama, Minotaur and Asterius, etc. in the same room so who knows.

Is Mastema at least fusion material for Satan?

Nope; Merkabah + Lucifer.

But Mastema is still fuseable, right?

I mentioned ages ago that Mastema had nothing to do with Satan. All Final/Apocalypse was make that clear.

Well, yeah, as of now.

You can see how someone like me might've drawn the previous conclusion, though.

Not really. Mainline Satan has never been card carrying villain like Mastema is in SJ. Only in Spinoffs.

So is YHVH's motive for wanting the conflict perpetuated known yet? I know I've asked this before, but I'm really interested since it's such a reversal of His usual portrayal.

This is what I've heard, but its not the typical sources I hear: You know how Jon on Neutral talked about how God wishes to remove despair that gives rise to demons? Apparently he thought a Forever War was the solution.

Huh!? Maybe It Makes Sense in Context but that just sounds nuts. Which YHVH supposedly is, so...

Well, YHVH is supposed to work in mysterious ways, right? Though in this case, "mysterious ways" is a nice way of saying "completely bonkers."

He sure changes MO a lot, too. In order: Kill everyone -> Destroy and re-create everything -> Brainwash everyone -> Kill everyone but a small, indoctrinated community -> Perpetuate an endless war to break humanity's spirit... or something.

Truth be told, he's probably stick to one plan if those Chaos assholes didn't always wreck his shit EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

You'd be a little bonkers too if some dude made it his mission to screw things up for you every time you did anything.

You mean humans. His tantrums are always the result of humans not doing what he wants. Chaos fucks up his plans because he's a dick.

Even Megami Tensei II YHVH wanted to kill everyone because people were worshiping Lucifer because he wasn't a huge dick.

Them too.

Man, people are always ruining YHVH's plans. All he wants is unconditional obedience and worship from now until the end of time, without any deviation whatsoever.

Is that so much to ask?

Yes.

It's time for some old fashioned deicide.

I guess God must have thought a forever war would boost humanity's spirit by virtue of warfare potentially bringing out the best of humanity. That they would all be peppy and full of morale the entire time.

Gross misunderstanding of humanity to say the least.

That's seems to be the biggest thing with God's attempts to control humanity.

He really doesn't understand them at all.

That does seem to be the point of His character in this one: He's become so powerful He's no longer able to care about lesser beings. Kinda like Dr. Manhattan, if you've read Watchmen.

Yeah. You know, it'd be interesting to see a bit more of YHVH before he lost the ability to care about humans.

It'd be something new beyond the unchanging tyrant persona he has now.

An unchanging Tyrant sounds pretty Law.

This is true.

I guess I should really stop asking for stuff that won't ever happen.