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MrTerrorFace Since: Sep, 2012
#1: May 4th 2013 at 12:16:58 PM

While N is a hypocrite, I don't think he counts as a strawman because

A:Anti-villains don't count as strawmen.

B:The creators want you to sympathise with him.

and C:He never comes off as a caricature and his character is actually pretty realistic.

edited 4th May '13 4:55:04 PM by MrTerrorFace

nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010
#2: May 4th 2013 at 1:55:27 PM

But i wouldn't know that having not read the comic, and the image looks perfectly fine to me. Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

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#3: May 4th 2013 at 1:58:24 PM

I have some difficulty understanding the objections.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MrTerrorFace Since: Sep, 2012
#4: May 4th 2013 at 2:53:13 PM

Basically, I don't think he counts because he's not a strawman.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5: May 4th 2013 at 2:57:12 PM

Are we supposed to approve of the argument there?

No. So it's a strawman.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#6: May 4th 2013 at 3:10:15 PM

It's been a while since I played the game, so I don't remember if N counts as a Straw Hypocrite, but Team Plasma as a whole definitely does, and the "Using Pokemon is wrong" argument is definitely set up to be knocked down.

MrTerrorFace Since: Sep, 2012
#7: May 4th 2013 at 4:52:56 PM

There's a thread discussing what counts as a strawman:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1364511652091802200&page=5#112https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1364511652091802200&page=5#112

And to quote someone from the thread "Something that is deliberately intended as a moral grey area is not a strawman."

Not to mention N was the only well-intentioned person out of Team Plasma and he's clearly no strawman.

edited 4th May '13 4:54:20 PM by MrTerrorFace

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#8: May 4th 2013 at 5:01:00 PM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested

Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#9: May 8th 2013 at 12:26:29 PM

I'm the guy who put it up, and while I agree what Terror Face is saying, the fact that the image pretty much fits what the trope is trying to say kind of tells me to go for Keep Until A Better Image Is Found.

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#10: May 29th 2013 at 6:53:52 AM

Clock is set.

edited 29th May '13 6:54:00 AM by Willbyr

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#11: Jun 2nd 2013 at 9:15:49 AM

Clock's up; locking for inactivity. No action is to be taken based on this thread.

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